SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]
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Just make 3 difficulties of lab itself, not the affected to normal/cruel/merc.
For example: 1. Only for ascendancy points. Broken traps on last Izaro battle, always opened cheasts, broken enchant machine, etc. 2. Standart variant. Traps on last Izaro battle, like normal/cruel/merc, not like uber. Cheasts, enchant font, etc. 3. For true tombraiders. Traps in lab always like uber. Random curses in all locations (or just random map mods per day). Izaro dropped additional key, enchant font gives two enchant. Level of lab +5. P.S.: sorry for bad English. E = mc^(OMG)/wtf
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How did this get to page 2 again???
Support the cause. Free the ascendancy points from LAB.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216/page/1 Other top 3 issues. Make standard great again. Fix XP (add fatigue system). Fix lag. MR GGG tear down this ascendancy wall. |
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" Why does GGG allow bumping of threads like this without actual contributions? It got to page 2 again because no one really gives a shit? or Perhaps its because GGG isn't doing a change to the lab mid league and not likely ever, but its ok keep your hopes up. I will say that if GGG doesn't change the lab in the next patch, the likely hood of ever achieving that OP wants is slim to none. They very rarely go back and change expansion content "largely" months after the patch was added. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. | |
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End of effing discussion, anointed one?
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" /thread I'm a forum warrior, i was born to post, raised to defend my league. Now my post has been removed, chained and exiled by mods who Ban. Ban is my brother; i do not fear it. I see it in the eyes of men and beasts that i troll. It will take me to play the actual game when i am ready and i am not ready.
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Lol, no because I want people that dislike the lab to find a way to enjoy it or at least a way to get passed the idea of hating it.
https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. | |
" There is a way to get past the idea of hating it... let people that hate it ignore it just like people that hate PvP can ignore PvP. | |
" I don't have any real expectations for 2.4, which will likely be about the endgame, but what happens after that will be crucial. If GGG continues to insist on the lab as an integral part of the game and develops things from there, that will IMO be a disastrous decision. It will certainly be the end of the game for me. One big reason for people to keep expressing their opposition to the lab is that GGG (I'm sure) would like to think that players have just learned to live with it. Proud member of the Vocal Minority
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" This problem of the horrible labyrinth content is still a festering sore in the PoE community. It has resolved itself for many over the past four or five months by players quitting the game. I myself quit for a while and played another game. Over the past two weeks alone there has been almost ten new threads that have been discussing it. For me, the next release will indicate whether I quit the game for good. Here's a list of well over 100 threads in very roughly reverse chronological order.
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My search was no where near exhaustive. I wouldn't be surprised if I don't even have half of the actual threads here that indicate lab needs to change. I was thorough looking through the last three weeks of March and since May 17 when I started compiling this list. The May 17 list was extracted from threads that I had posted in. The easiest place to find more threads is probably the first week of March and prior. To get a general flavor of the threads, I suggest you at least read through the thread titles. (I tended to ignore threads about just Izaro or enchants and not list those. My theory about Izaro is that he didn't seem to have more than the usual complaints for a new tough boss. I also ignored the very few threads that had a positive OP regarding labyrinth.)
LAB And Predictive Mode https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1699674 A complete lab rework ..... funmode https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697465 An idea to make lab traps less frustrating without making them less difficult https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697758 Plz fix https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697806 GGG pls tell us the release date of the next major patch https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697672 A few suggestions to the labyrinth to make less people hate it. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697354 It's a labyrinth, not a dungeon... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696202 Lab traps need nerfed https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1695176 uber lab ruined this game for me https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1692762 Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1690630 Labyrinth would be fine if... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1688682 Lab should be really called "Prison" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1689116 My 2c on Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1687889 Why would GGG introduce content that people HATE https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1688902 Put Ascendency points as a reward for defeating Malachai. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1686222 The Labyrinth is great content https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1686329 Why the uber lab is a fuck-up https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1683137 The Ascendency Labyrinth - My Conclusions so far and how to solve the Problem! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1681139 Labyrinth is to hard for noobs like me. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1666613 Open Letter to Chris Wilson (on making the labyrinth more inclusive) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1664975 I hate the lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665824 The labyrinth is both boring and frustrating https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600374 Labyrinth,the worst content ever made in POE? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602474 SET FREE ASCENDANCY POINTS (remove AC from lab) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216 [Poll] It's been a month now, how much do you like the labyrinth/acendancy class/enchantments? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1639251 Labyrinth sucks https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599400 Labrynth = not fun https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599118 Labyrinth an all difficulties? absolute horror, who has time for this? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1654766 Lab is boring https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1654094 Labyrinth makes me want to stop playing. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1652039 The Labyrinth Reduced *My* Retention https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1648622 Labyrinth has killed any motivation to make new characters for me. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1650687 Ascendancy points can be rewarded out of Labyrinth. Lab is forced just to have a build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1647982 Quitting PoE after years due to Labyrinth System https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607115 My wallet will talk https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1642689 Im done https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1640022 Let's Talk Compromise https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1639840 Quick fix for the labyrinth: Orb of Enchantment https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1626083 Labyrinth killed the game for me https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1637861 Ready to say goodbye to an old friend. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1635252 Just When The Game Had Roped Me Back In, I Think I’m Done Again https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1631143 Labyrinth is trash https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1625607 The Labyrinth as a returning player. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1626681 I never want to play the labyrinth ever again. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1619098 After thousen of hours and dollars, i now feel like quiting https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623311 The lab was the final nail https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621003 Does anyone actually enjoy Labyrinth? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602524 Petition to get GGG to add Nascar-Style Racing to PoE https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1612436 The Labyrinth can imprison you? Are you serious??? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609752 Labyrinth = Worst addon ever https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609842 My solution for Labyrinth - Abandon runs with difficult traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1627246 The Labyrinth is not fun https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623748 To much Diesync in Labyrinth for Predictive End Fight https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1615082 [POLLS] Traps: What works, what doesn't, how can GGG fix what's broken? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1625332 Some improvements for lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623275 The lab was the final nail https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621003 Pure and hybrid ES is basicly screwed in lab. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618697 Labyrinth and Visibility https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1622033 The Lab's pacing https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621396 Improving Traps in the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621394 Suggestion (updated): One of the biggest gripes with the Labyrinth can be solved by... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618436 LAB FKN FAIL https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618978 Sorry, not good enough. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1605295 My thoughts on the lab. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1619593 Quitting POE now after the labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599749 Alternate way to Ascend https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602696 The labyrinth's interaction with ES-based builds. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618873 Labryinth Key (Currency) - Unlocks Boss Fight only version https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618533 Labyrinth is Horrible https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604737 The Impossible Lab. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618302 Challenges... in Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616168 Farewell, my friends! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609642 Please remove 'Restart on death' from Labyrinth. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617190 Cleared labyrinth cruel, got 0 ascendancy points. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616950 My 2 cents https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617410 Traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617417 Died in labyrinth, couldnt flame dash, fake line of sight https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616996 Make Lab Optional - some Ideas https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616910 Labyrinth - Fix trap damage to set amounts in normal, rather than % of life / ES https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616743 No state save on disconnect in Labyrinth?? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1615253 I've made up my mind about the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1614981 Why does Lab actually reset zones? That is terrible design. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1614152 Labyrinth sections reset?! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1614138 An idea about Ascendancy and the dreaded Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1613410 Here is why the Labyrinth favours softcore and is a very bad design. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1610755 Died last night... uber lab trial this time... quitting poe again https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696107 As someone who actually doesn't hate the lab, I must say https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696787 Labyrinth "balance" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1611700 Poe Ascendancy went downhill , patch & GAME is horrible. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1610258 Labyrinth = Worst addon ever https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609842 My Problems with the Labyrith https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1610210 Labirynth is forcing hardcore on standard players. Why would you do that?? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608967 Don't like how the lab is implemented https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608889 GGG Read this: Labyrinth Advice from a Loyal Player https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608502 Labyrinth, forcing HC feelings? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608040 I'll lend my voice... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604534 Do you think playing labyrinths is any fun? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602206 Trial´s & Lab´s trap damage https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607185 Labyrinth forcing hardcore on standard players https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607088 Labyrinth should not be mandatory for ac points https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1606225 The Ascendency Feedback https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604398 Shit ass update https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1605268 The Labyrinth is everying I dislike about games in one package. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599347 Labyrinth visibility and switches https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603597 Remove Acendancy Points from Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603373 Alternate Ascendancy https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603680 Ascendancy is not fun. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602221 " Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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" Yet a massive list of threads doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things, GGG makes the design choices and for the most part lives with the decisions, almost all suggestions require a significant amount of work in order to implement and go against the design, its like a double wammy against doing any changes. John Keys made a thread because hes a noob at the lab and doesn't understand how it works, its fine to have feedback threads like this. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. |
