Feedback n Suggestion page is pointless

Hmmm...

Slight tooltip precision thing bothering me - ele damage on jewelry/armour should specify "attack" IMPLEMENTED

So, why can't high level magic items roll % health regeneration? KINDA IMPLEMENTED

More Implicit Mods (with randomness) KINDA IMPLEMENTED

So why isn't cleave "40% less damage when dual wielding"? (context: used to be less physical damage only) IMPLEMENTED

Idea: Iron Reflexes: DEX no longer grants EVA bonus IMPLEMENTED

Shock stacks IMPLEMENTED

Decoy Totem does not work when it should. IMPLEMENTED, KINDA, AFTER A WHILE

Question of little import: in-game system clock IMPLEMENTED

Why are there no physical bow skills? KINDA IMPLEMENTED (context: before Barrage)

Armour needs a straight up numbers buff! IMPLEMENTED (ok, I overshot with 12->8 instead of 12->10, but the idea was the same)

Blood rage and chaos resistance IMPLEMENTED

Opinion: Namelock needs to be disabled for Cyclone RIGHT THIS MOMENT. IMPLEMENTED... but not right that moment >:(

Triple the drop rate ffs. IMPLEMENTED (context: this was before GGG quadrupled Unique drop rates.)

Auto AFK message IMPLEMENTED

I really, really, hate what Atlas did to unique maps. IMPLEMENTED

lol, just played Racecourse boss for the first time. IMPLEMENTED

List of wording improvements needed 25% IMPLEMENTED

yeah, this forum is completely pointless, they don't ever do anything feedback says they should do

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adghar wrote:

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Shock stacks IMPLEMENTED
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I think they should return shock stacks at lower percentages. Like 3 stacks with 20-25% damage bonus due vinktars being in the game. Vinktars flask is way better at shocking than lightning damage sources. With this change Vinktars flask (and vaal lightning trap) would give 1 stack- 20-25% damage bonus while with damage sources it would be possible to get to 60-75%.
Althou HOWA might need a more serious rebalance.

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torturo wrote:

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HarukaTeno wrote:

Got an actual quote of that "firm statement" of "F*** YOU, PLAYERS" to post here? ;)

Nothing hateful, I'm paraphrasing. A straight flip off would mean a marketing suicide, so ofc it couldn't be worded this way.

The actual statement was something like "We seldomly visit the forum thus we don't take feedback into account. We prefer the reddit platform as it's more popular and also easier to operate and highlight our own posts."
Or alike. Won't dig for it, find it yourself.

Suuure. "I didn't mean it that way", "find yourself". Burden of Proof in a nutshell.

You could've tricked "new people", but you should try better to trick old-timers.

Even today's news post disagrees with your "paraphrasing":
Developer Interview - Quality Assurance Team

The only thing which might slightly resemble your "paraphrasing" are Chris' words which were posted after Feedback & Suggestions forum, and the whole forum as well, became a mess of clearly BS suggestions, DEMANDS, repeated threads (AH, EXP loss %, "X is OP, NERF!", "Y is weak, BUFF", "Why did you do Z, you morons?" and such).

And people who are here for a long time can clearly understand the DEV's position of "less comments".

You can ask anyone "how were the forum at 2013\2014?".
The answer would be "much more nicer than now".

They would spend an unreasonable amounts of time even for just posting "Seen™", not to mention actual engaging in conversations.

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torturo wrote:

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HarukaTeno wrote:

Got an actual quote of that "firm statement" of "F*** YOU, PLAYERS" to post here? ;)

Nothing hateful, I'm paraphrasing. A straight flip off would mean a marketing suicide, so ofc it couldn't be worded this way.

The actual statement was something like "We seldomly visit the forum thus we don't take feedback into account. We prefer the reddit platform as it's more popular and also easier to operate and highlight our own posts."
Or alike. Won't dig for it, find it yourself.

Yeah, this is total BS. GGG never said anything remotely like this. They have though said they do read the feedback forums but intentionally don't reply or try to influence the conversation.

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mark1030 wrote:

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torturo wrote:

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HarukaTeno wrote:

Got an actual quote of that "firm statement" of "F*** YOU, PLAYERS" to post here? ;)

Nothing hateful, I'm paraphrasing. A straight flip off would mean a marketing suicide, so ofc it couldn't be worded this way.

The actual statement was something like "We seldomly visit the forum thus we don't take feedback into account. We prefer the reddit platform as it's more popular and also easier to operate and highlight our own posts."
Or alike. Won't dig for it, find it yourself.

Yeah, this is total BS. GGG never said anything remotely like this. They have though said they do read the feedback forums but intentionally don't reply or try to influence the conversation.

But but... I need confirmation that my babyrage ranting and raving and unreasonable DEMANDS are going to influence the direction of the game, dammit!

I am sure someone reads these threads, or at the very least glances over them. There are a ton of rather pointless threads to sift through in order to find solid feedback. Most threads end up in people bashing each other anyway.

People already nitpick every little thing that GGG states so constantly commenting on forums would just result in them being attacked. It's ultimately not worth it.

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adghar wrote:

Hmmm...

Slight tooltip precision thing bothering me - ele damage on jewelry/armour should specify "attack" IMPLEMENTED

So, why can't high level magic items roll % health regeneration? KINDA IMPLEMENTED

More Implicit Mods (with randomness) KINDA IMPLEMENTED

So why isn't cleave "40% less damage when dual wielding"? (context: used to be less physical damage only) IMPLEMENTED

Idea: Iron Reflexes: DEX no longer grants EVA bonus IMPLEMENTED

Shock stacks IMPLEMENTED

Decoy Totem does not work when it should. IMPLEMENTED, KINDA, AFTER A WHILE

Question of little import: in-game system clock IMPLEMENTED

Why are there no physical bow skills? KINDA IMPLEMENTED (context: before Barrage)

Armour needs a straight up numbers buff! IMPLEMENTED (ok, I overshot with 12->8 instead of 12->10, but the idea was the same)

Blood rage and chaos resistance IMPLEMENTED

Opinion: Namelock needs to be disabled for Cyclone RIGHT THIS MOMENT. IMPLEMENTED... but not right that moment >:(

Triple the drop rate ffs. IMPLEMENTED (context: this was before GGG quadrupled Unique drop rates.)

Auto AFK message IMPLEMENTED

I really, really, hate what Atlas did to unique maps. IMPLEMENTED

lol, just played Racecourse boss for the first time. IMPLEMENTED

List of wording improvements needed 25% IMPLEMENTED

yeah, this forum is completely pointless, they don't ever do anything feedback says they should do

To be fair, there are thousands of threads on Feedback that are not implemented or even acknowledged by GGG.

Heck, there are hundreds of threads on Lab ALONE asking for suggested changes on giving portals/save points, improving enchants, nerfing Izaro, making it optional, etc.

There have been threads on Volatile Blood since 2013 - good to see it takes 4 years for GGG to heed the feedback.

And most of the stuff you list is also from 2013 nearly 4 years ago - kinda just proves OP's point here doesn't it?

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Ceryneian wrote:

To be fair, there are thousands of threads on Feedback that are not implemented or even acknowledged by GGG.

Not every opinion is created equal when it comes to maximizing player enjoyment (or, for cynics, profit) from game design. Path of Exile game design is not a democracy, although it would be interesting to see a game that is more democratic than even POE. (is the result Diablo 3??? I only sporadically played it, but from what I can tell, players wanted all item drops to be "useful" and "legendaries to drop more often," and now... you play for 2 weeks and you get perfect gear, right? And then what's the point? and all items look pretty much the same? (Main stat, crit chance, crit damage, and ONE choice of flavour stat?))

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And most of the stuff you list is also from 2013 nearly 4 years ago - kinda just proves OP's point here doesn't it?

Nah, I'm more of a technical "Rules as Written" nitpicker - his premise appears to be that because no threads have GGG replies, then F&S is pointless. As you can see from the list, the vast majority of feedback that does match GGG future choices does not have GGG replies.

its a place for special snowflakes to feel heard

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Ceryneian wrote:

Heck, there are hundreds of threads on Lab ALONE asking for suggested changes on giving portals/save points, improving enchants, nerfing Izaro, making it optional, etc.

And yet they have made changes to the lab based on player feedback like making trials once per account per league instead of once per character and reducing trap damage to ES so ES builds don't have too hard of a time with them. Just because they don't reply or take suggestions doesn't mean they don't read them