Is this diablo 3 all over again?

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Golden_Order wrote:

Hardcore? If so congratulations. If not, then it doesnt matter. Softcore doesnt count.

Let me know when you do it on Hardcore.

Lol, his post wasn't worth being taken seriously when he said he was a top grifter that theory crafted his own builds in Diablo.

That's so true though anyways.

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innervation wrote:

Play non summoner in HC SSF.

This game has always been as challenging as you're willing to make it. Instead we get people playing OP fotm stuff then bringing their shocked pikachu faces to the forums when they nuke their enemies.

I played summoner IN ssf HC only made it to 65... just play ssf hc is enough for most people to rip even playing op spec because its harder not having resists maxed and shit gear most of the time.

And yes to parrot what others say in this thread only SSF HC matters. The rest are practice leagues. Looks like I need more practice :P I'll make another run this weekend.

well, lets see

Spectres playstyle:
doesnt need much gear
does insane dmg
doesnt require player to do much except standing near and pressing Flesh offering here and there
cheap to optimize


Melee / Bow / Anything else playstyle:
High impact combat
requires reflexes and dodging abilities
actually fun
requires skill and exact gearing

yeah i think the fun ur refering to is in the game, u just chose the other path and now ur like :O no way abusing op mechanics is making my game not challenging

Poe has the kind of bullshit easiness except the one time it's not easy and you absolutely can't do anything about it.

The other day i did a T12 with the lv83 necro, then i went doing some yellow to be unlocked. Entered a room with a soul eater rare, boom 7k oneshot. So much for couterplay.

Also quoting dakkon x100. D3 system is way better, you need to proc all skills in your set(s) together, and when you hit the ceiling you know you got to farm hard for primal ancients paragons to get that +1 level

Unlike in poe where you have these nukes and one button to press and the other ones are passive/active buffs, like the flask spam is so much of a dumb system while auras are really basic stuff.

What they did wrong in D3 (ros) is making the game too much focused to the kind of gaming illiterate spoon feeding gear too much and then without having a deeper progression. Plus killing the game to go milk people with mobiles. The name is quite ironic, the makers of Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls ripped their own souls for cash grabs and then fell from the tree when the announcement od DI was a fail

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BloodPuddles420 wrote:

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Golden_Order wrote:

Hardcore? If so congratulations. If not, then it doesnt matter. Softcore doesnt count.

Let me know when you do it on Hardcore.

Lol, his post wasn't worth being taken seriously when he said he was a top grifter that theory crafted his own builds in Diablo.

That's so true though anyways.

Not that it matters anymore but

https://us.diablo3.com/en/rankings/era/5/rift-barbarian

3 levels higher than the previous. Go read up the 600 spear - I came up with the build. No one else knew what was going on. Just like no one in POE knew how I got to my delve level without me going public.

My achievements in both POE and Diablo are well documented. I would ask for yours but given your perchant for trolling, it is pretty obvious what the answer would be.

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Xystre wrote:

As much people want to hate activision-blizzard constantly d3 runs smoother than poe atm, sure they lack alot of content to be in sub par with poe but they made sure if they are having maintenance mode for years their game will run smoothly..

+1

D3 had many flaws. But they did really have a great engine with the best combat flow I have seen in an ARPG.

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Morkonan wrote:

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Dr1MaR wrote:

Ya gameplay sucks in Poe, I mean it’s non-fucking-existent. Pew pew collect loot pew pew collect loot. Once an hour something tries to kill you then it s back to pew pew again. Poe can’t compete with D4 in this state

D3 (D4 doesn't exist) is only about the Ladder Season for those looking for intense gaming.

Pew Pew builds may exist in PoE, but they require more knowledge and more work to put together in PoE. The mechanics of the game are also more complex in general. Navigating a new League and its mechanics while incorporating new material added to the "Core" game, that may or may not be present in the league, does not have an equitable gameplay activity in D3. D3 is about rules and item changes.

And, for button-mashing... D3 requires far less "buttons" and even fewer decisions to be made.

Just so I am understood - Diablo 3 is an outsanding game. It's better than PoE for multiplayer by a huge margin. And, well, it's "Diablo." That has its own appeal. But, at the end of the day, the only "game" there is there is the Ladder. That's it. That's actually a lot of fun up to the point where it's either you have a full crew to supply mats to you or you're willing to cheat/exploit like many of your competitors are doing.

PoE has a ton more content and many more things to do. The Atlas is still key, though, for "intense play."

A great build will destroy the Atlas. One can't do that in D3 as it's a progressive, dynamically generated, instanced dungeon system. PoE does not use that mechanic. I don't know if it can. BUT, D3's mechanic can get pretty darn boring after endless Rifts.

I meant future D4, assuming blizzard learnt from their own mistakes and GGG s mistakes. Something tells me D4 is not going to be a soulless gameplayless grind like Poe is. Poe is nothing but a loot simulator, no need to position character, no need to think what button to press next, like I m playing wow classic atm(I know it s an mmo but still) there are so many things you can do in combat, it s so diverse. What Poe has to offer? Nothing but hold 1 button watch enemy dissa pear from the screen like it s nothing but a bunch of sprites drawn together and it s just there to provide you free loot and free xp. Does not involve skill, thinking, nothing. The grind is boring because monsters posses very little mechanics, danger, as long as you shoot your overpowered 1 button the enemy will do nothing, they just get stunlocked and wait for you to finish them off so you can collect that loot that you don’t even need to play the content. You are basically a walking god fighting with yourself, mobs are there to create an illusion that this is an ARPG but in reality this is just a walking simulator pretending to be ARPG. Notice, I don’t criticize anything else in Poe but gameplay because the game does have a great potential, there is a lot of content, lots of ways to build your character but what difference does it do when everything ends up oneshotting everything and leeching back/potting to full hp in less than a second? What difference does it do when all you can do is just log out and cancel the danger? Even D3 can actually provide a better and more thoughtful gameplay than Poe. You can actually fight mobs and kite them instead of just popping packs after packs like nothing. As long as the gameplay stays the same in poe I doubt Poe will stay on top of the game for very long, steam charts already showing that, GGG needs to act quick and address this issue in a timely manner, 4.0 must contain significant gameplay changes to compete with future ARPGs

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Golden_Order wrote:

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DAKKONx wrote:

To be fair - it is not realistic for the average forumer here to fully dive into the deepest game mechanics of either POE or D3.

I have done both.

In D3 - I was consistently ranked amongst the 5 Barbarians on the GRift leaderboards. I attained the #1 ranking twice before switching to POE.
In POE - I am the #1 delver at Depth 14,000. I only started playing this game in 2017.

My gear is GG in both games and I theory craft my own builds.

My experience is that it is much harder to top leaderboards in Diablo. Being good at solo boards is not enough, you must also have a top guild that is able to push group GRifts in order to upgrade gems for solo pushes. Group gameplay in Diablo is 100x better than POE.

Hardcore? If so congratulations. If not, then it doesnt matter. Softcore doesnt count.

Let me know when you do it on Hardcore.

Are you serious? You know that there was a whole reddit thread about how the f he did it? And that many, many people (hardcore players) wanted to know too to go even deeper? This whole hardcore vs. softcore stuff may be a nice hobby for the bored. But it misses the point here. By a mile.

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DAKKONx wrote:

Not that it matters anymore but

https://us.diablo3.com/en/rankings/era/5/rift-barbarian

3 levels higher than the previous. Go read up the 600 spear - I came up with the build. No one else knew what was going on. Just like no one in POE knew how I got to my delve level without me going public.

My achievements in both POE and Diablo are well documented. I would ask for yours but given your perchant for trolling, it is pretty obvious what the answer would be.

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Xystre wrote:

As much people want to hate activision-blizzard constantly d3 runs smoother than poe atm, sure they lack alot of content to be in sub par with poe but they made sure if they are having maintenance mode for years their game will run smoothly..

+1

D3 had many flaws. But they did really have a great engine with the best combat flow I have seen in an ARPG.

Says you've been inactive for too long so I can't view the character. I have a lot of trouble believing if I could, you wouldn't have a six piece set and a bunch of items with the same skill in their affix though.

Log in to your account on there so I can see it.

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DAKKONx wrote:

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BloodPuddles420 wrote:

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Golden_Order wrote:

Hardcore? If so congratulations. If not, then it doesnt matter. Softcore doesnt count.

Let me know when you do it on Hardcore.

Lol, his post wasn't worth being taken seriously when he said he was a top grifter that theory crafted his own builds in Diablo.

That's so true though anyways.

Not that it matters anymore but

https://us.diablo3.com/en/rankings/era/5/rift-barbarian

3 levels higher than the previous. Go read up the 600 spear - I came up with the build. No one else knew what was going on. Just like no one in POE knew how I got to my delve level without me going public.

My achievements in both POE and Diablo are well documented. I would ask for yours but given your perchant for trolling, it is pretty obvious what the answer would be.

I wouldn't bother proving yourself. You can’t win an argument with someone when their every comeback is yet another version of a “no true Scotsman” fallacy. Not worth debating with people like that.

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Phaeded wrote:

I wouldn't bother proving yourself. You can’t win an argument with someone when their every comeback is yet another version of a “no true Scotsman” fallacy. Not worth debating with people like that.

That's not what that means. I don't think you even read any of this and are just saying things.

He said he made top grift build in Diablo. I said I have trouble believing that's true. If you're just sticking together the things that were made to go together it's not making a build.

Learn the words you try to use.