Is this diablo 3 all over again?

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Destructodave wrote:

You need more reflexes than you do in PoE. You actually have to use your entire skillset, too. Its not RTS/MobA/FPS level of reflexes, but for all D3's faults, its heavy on the "Action" part of Arpg.

And if I remember correctly from earlier in the thread, you havent even did Grifts so how do you know? You said you got to torment 10 and quit.

And I dont know how anyone can flame D3 for being easier than PoE when builds like Righteous Fire, Totem builds, and Summoner builds exist. You actually dont even play the game with those builds. Its almost the equivalent of an incremental game at that point, where you just stand around and collect loot. I imagine you have never even played any of those builds either, since you told me I was lying when I explained my current RF playstyle.

If you actually believe PoE is harder, please go build one of those 3 and come back to me and tell me what you think, lol. Totems especially. Hell, if you make a chieftan or Champion, the damn totems taunt for god's sake. RF at least gets gear checked and has some map mod issues. Totems you just slap in there and go. Cast a totem, stand around.

D3 has its faults, but the actual gameplay isnt it. It just has zero depth to it, like you said about the builds. But you do have to dodge stuff from every rare pack, you gotta use all your skills, and you actually have to "play" the game. Again, its heavy on the Action part of Arpg, where PoE is heavier on the RPG part of Arpg. D3 is MLB The Show, PoE is Out of the Park baseball.

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DAKKONx wrote:

It's quite clear from the replies and his in-game achievements that he is only capable at playing at a low skill level. Nothing wrong with that, most gamers don't play seriously and neither should their comments be taken seriously.

I agree with your post on the difference in combat between D3 and POE. The combat in D3 is deeper and more fluid than POE. In D3 you need to herd the mobs before going for the DPS burst via cooldown utilisation. The timer is strict here and is often centered around the 4 sec convention of elements window. Knowing when to engage and disengage is a critical part of D3 combat.

When I first played POE in 2017, I found the skill tree and items incredibly interesting and complex. The combat however was very 1 dimensional based on a 1 button spam. I see however there has been increasing attempts of cooldown mechanics similar to D3 with focus and guard skills being examples. I view this development as positive from a combat perspective.

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BloodPuddles420 wrote:

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DAKKONx wrote:

It's quite clear from the replies and his in-game achievements that he is only capable at playing at a low skill level. Nothing wrong with that, most gamers don't play seriously and neither should their comments be taken seriously.

I agree with your post on the difference in combat between D3 and POE. The combat in D3 is deeper and more fluid than POE. In D3 you need to herd the mobs before going for the DPS burst via cooldown utilisation. The timer is strict here and is often centered around the 4 sec convention of elements window. Knowing when to engage and disengage is a critical part of D3 combat.

When I first played POE in 2017, I found the skill tree and items incredibly interesting and complex. The combat however was very 1 dimensional based on a 1 button spam. I see however there has been increasing attempts of cooldown mechanics similar to D3 with focus and guard skills being examples. I view this development as positive from a combat perspective.

No, this whole genre is far from being skill based. You think your reflexes are so much better than mine? Open Arena me. I'll be playing laying down on a bed with a shit connection, and a wonky ass mapping because half my keys are broken. And I'll still completely obliterate you.

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ghamadvar wrote:

Maybe kill Shaper first.

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BloodPuddles420 wrote:

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ghamadvar wrote:

Maybe kill Shaper first.

You say that like it means something. I could just make a necro and have them do it for me with no effort.

I refuse to ever play a game on easy mode.

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BloodPuddles420 wrote:

No, this whole genre is far from being skill based. You think your reflexes are so much better than mine? Open Arena me. I'll be playing laying down on a bed with a shit connection, and a wonky ass mapping because half my keys are broken. And I'll still completely obliterate you.

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BloodPuddles420 wrote:

Well with everyone saying pushing grifts is harder I don't think that's the case. And don't just dismiss Open Arena as proof of who's reflexes are better. Quake is literally nothing but reflexes. I think all the "endgame" PoE players should put their ego in check, given how it seems pretty apparent they know nothing of gaming outside of ARPGs.