I really hate lab

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ewolow wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

Irrelevant, PoE has always been like this from the start, it has always been a game that was meant to provide a hardcore experience.

According to whom? What metric, what standard? All we have here is your say so. Did you ever play D2/LOD? (Which is the model and metric for this game) I cannot imagine anyone calling d2 play to level 100 "Hardcore".

No it isn't.
Get real.

PoE is just a game that GGG develops, and they set what it should and should not be, you don't, and you never ever will.
And GGG has always said that they were developping a game according to their vision, that of a hardcore gamer's team.
From the very start.

But Torturo is right, it has became less and less hardcore, only just saying that Lab has nothing to do here because it gives players a hardcore-like experience is a blatant and pathetic lie, since the original state of the game is about providing a hardcore experience.


And who said that some people did not have a valuable opinion here ? There you go abouttrying to spread fallacies now ... good job.

Lab does not gate relative to the builds, not more than maps, not more than malachai, etc ....
If you can't do it properly, it's your fault, that is very different.
But I guess that it is easier to tell yourself that it's not your fault because the lab is screwing up your whole build, better do that than try to understand I guess heh.

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Torturo wrote:

Speaking in general, nowadays PoE is casual as fuck, and that's intentional, the more successful marketing strategy. It's just much more complicated than other games in the genre, but the HC tag isn't there.

As much as I agree that many things have became too casual, there are many things that are clearly not for casual players in the game, many.



PS : Thinking that GGG didn't intend and expect people to share the layout of the lab on the internet is delusional at best, stupid at worse.
Like seriously, it's also quite ignorant to be honest.

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The_Reporter wrote:

Listen, Friz. If GGG kew that the no-lifer casuals would be sharing the daily layout around, and they are expecting all players to follow it, then why didn't GGG just include the path on the in game map?

It makes no sense. ZERO.

Because GGG giving players everything on a silver plate is totally the same as people sharing an information together, right ?
.............

Are you serious here ? ( since you have been QQing from the start )
Or are you trolling once more ? ( since you have been QQing from the start, pretty sure that you already knew that )

The difference being really obvious, I will let you think about it.


Just a hint : the fact that many players do not know about this and need to search about it is a thing here.
Have you noticed how the whole game let the player try out stuff ( and eventually players document it ) instead of just giving all information ?
One would assume that you are aware of that, but ...

You're missing the point, I kind of expected it to be honest.
You can try harder if you want.

And now the "you have been brainwashed", good job, this enough shows how you have no actual arguments.

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Fruz wrote:

You're missing the point, I kind of expected it to be honest.

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Fruz wrote:

But Torturo is right, it has became less and less hardcore, only just saying that Lab has nothing to do here because it gives players a hardcore-like experience is a blatant and pathetic lie, since the original state of the game is about providing a hardcore experience.

He was using Chris Wilson words when the Labyrinth was released. Chris said that the Labyrinth was intended to give softcore players the feeling of hardcore. Which in my opinion is one of the stupid things that GGG has probably ever said because if softcore players wanted to play hardcore then they wouldn't be playing softcore.