poe.xyz.is = The "auction house" that everyone thought we didn't need?

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phrazz wrote:

And that's the idea of it. Trading isn't supposed to be "easy", that's why Chris doesn't want buyouts. When trading becomes more easy than the developers intended, the balance between drop rates and trading get screwd.

Kids now a days, too spoiled. used to get what they want, when they want.

Any sufficiently advanced community/civilization will eventually gravitate towards efficiency. The development and subsequent popularity of sites like poe.xyz only demonstrate this fact. Poe.xyz is simply an indexed forum search tool. It has nothing to do with "kids these days" wanting everything now.

Could you imagine going on Amazon.com and having absolutely no categories to browse through? Just a bunch of products listed and you have to scroll through hundreds of millions of results to find what you need? Looking for a pair of men's running shoes in size 12 that are red in color? Good luck hunting!

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rrtson wrote:

Any sufficiently advanced community/civilization will eventually gravitate towards efficiency. The development and subsequent popularity of sites like poe.xyz only demonstrate this fact. Poe.xyz is simply an indexed forum search tool. It's not about "kids these days" wanting everything now.

It IS about that. People want is more easy than GGG has designed or intended. That's the only reason. I understad it, by all means. But it's not intended.

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rrtson wrote:

Could you imagine going on Amazon.com and having absolutely no categories to browse through? Just a bunch of products listed and you have to scroll through hundreds of millions of results to find what you need? Looking for a pair of men's running shoes in size 12 that are red in color? Good luck hunting!

Yeah, ok, we're there, comparing PoE to the real world? No, I could not imagine slaying a beast in the real world, that droped 10 products, some of them yellow. The dream of an orange product, I have given up.

And there we go again: What you "need". I NEED a three res pair of shoes, I should be able to get some without spending any amount of time or effort. It's spoiled. And sad.

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Yeah, ok, we're there, comparing PoE to the real world? No, I could not imagine slaying a beast in the real world, that droped 10 products, some of them yellow. The dream of an orange product, I have given up.

And there we go again: What you "need". I NEED a three res pair of shoes, I should be able to get some without spending any amount of time or effort. It's spoiled. And sad.

Are you braindead or are you really that dense? When sellers have products/items to sell, then it is the exact same situation whether it is in real life or in a game. A searchable database where items can be narrowed down by specific stats is a naturally logical system in both real life and in-game.

Do you really believe that the exiles in the world of Wraeclast wouldn't be smart enough to develop a marketplace that has a better trading system than trade chat? Even at a real-life bazaar, you would know that certain vendors sell certain goods like fruits and vegetables, while other vendors would sell linen or jewellery.

Well nothing much to add to this thread. The only thing is a opinion. While poexyz is a cool tool i still like that people need to make some effort in making a shop and that you still need this minimal interaction with other players. Wishing someone a good hunt after a good trade is just the better and the right feeling.

Cheers

What about limiting the option to selling non-unique items for the Auction House/personal stores?

Unique items would have to be traded personally? That way could keep the unique item drop rate same without needing to nerf it.

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phrazz wrote:

Trading isn't supposed to be "easy", that's why Chris doesn't want buyouts. When trading becomes more easy than the developers intended, the balance between drop rates and trading get screwd.

Kids now a days, too spoiled. used to get what they want, when they want.

Kids from older generations got what they wanted through mods and exploits, and they used them because it made the experience more fun. Since PoE is online only, which severely limits how the game is played, we have to rely on trading, crafting, and rng to keep the game fresh. With drop rates as low as they are, the novelty dies real quick and all that's left is an addiction.

Let's get this out of the way: if it weren't for poe.xyz, many of us would have left the game long ago because of how difficult it is to progress on your own. Even with xyz, there's still the issue of saving up enough to buy what you want. I don't understand how people have hundreds of exalts, let alone enough to buy a decent 6L weapon or chest. Without decent gear, you're pretty much trapped around the level 80 mark, then it's time to try out a new build, which means grinding through the same game three times per character and beating your head against the same horrible rng.

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Tempada wrote:

With drop rates as low as they are

now why do you think drop rates are so low?

do you think it has anything to do with trading?


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@OP. Yes.

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Veruski wrote:

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Tempada wrote:

With drop rates as low as they are

now why do you think drop rates are so low?

do you think it has anything to do with trading?


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Yes I think it has to do with the trade to win system and that GGG doesn't want players to feel satisfied about finding or crafting something decent

And why not a hybrid between the AH functionalities with in-game / presential limitations? Like This in-game shops idea?