Has GGG given official word on if they'll fix desync?

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Gobla wrote:

1. Predictions client-side do not open any exploits at all. If they opened up exploits they wouldn't be predictions. That's why it's a prediction, it's predicting what's happening server-side, it's not determining what's happening server-side. A prediction can not, by definition, open up an exploit.

2. An entirely different networking model would fix it while having equal protections against exploits and hacks as the current model. A model that waits for the server, used in pretty much every MOBA which often feature many of the same mechanics (including chance to hit, stuns, evasion, block etc.) PoE has. Now this model has other downsides (quality of play reduces greatly with higher pings) but the sad part is that each of those downsides is also present in PoE frankly horrible implementation of the client-side prediction model. PoE also becomes very much a pain to play with pings above 200, just like the alternative.

Desync itself can't be fixed in the current networking model, there are alternatives that are widely used in other games that don't suffer from desync but do suffer from high pings.

PoE's implementation of this networking model unfortunately suffers from both desync AND high pings. It's literally the worst of both worlds right now.

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Wurps wrote:

It's at the point where it's too annoying to hit my /oos every 3 seconds just to hit something that was secretly on the opposite side of me completely or in another room, or when monsters are pouring out of an opening to rush me, except they aren't actually there and I'm wasting my time attacking clientside monsters while they're meandering around off-screen in reality.

It currently appears as if they're completely ignoring it to me, I hope this isn't true, is there anyone who has some word from a GGG employee about it?

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lagwin1980 wrote:

Nothing since last year before the launch and it sounded close then, i did make a thread a few weeks back asking but no answer.

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dspair wrote:

Why would they fix something when they have a bunch of forum warriors defending everything broken about this game?

Seriously, Path of Exile is the only game where I have to download a 3rd party program to resync myself manually every 5 seconds. This is a joke. First time in my life I use auto hotkey, just to be able to play this game without going crazy.

But hurr durr, desync is unfixable, every game has desync, good netcode is a myth! Remember Quake Arena where you had to bind "oos" to some button and press it every time you bunny hop around the corner? Oh wait, you didn't have to do that. In fact, I don't even think they've made a "resync" command in that game, like GGG did in PoE. Maybe because it wasn't a problem unless you have insane ping? Oh, and you know these other fast-paced games that work just fine, without people on forums posting about horrible desync every week? But what do I know, I believe everything GGG says!

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lagwin1980 wrote:

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Wurps wrote:

It's at the point where it's too annoying to hit my /oos every 3 seconds just to hit something that was secretly on the opposite side of me completely or in another room, or when monsters are pouring out of an opening to rush me, except they aren't actually there and I'm wasting my time attacking clientside monsters while they're meandering around off-screen in reality.

It currently appears as if they're completely ignoring it to me, I hope this isn't true, is there anyone who has some word from a GGG employee about it?

Nothing since last year before the launch and it sounded close then, i did make a thread a few weeks back asking but no answer.

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f3rret wrote:

Also Quake Arena and most other online FPS have plenty of desync. Have you ever been facestabbed by a spy in TF2 or hit by a railgun shot behind a wall in Q3A?

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That's desync my friend, and those servers aren't even handling thousands on concurrent players, they got at most 32 players to keep track of at any given time.

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dspair wrote:

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f3rret wrote:

Also Quake Arena and most other online FPS have plenty of desync. Have you ever been facestabbed by a spy in TF2 or hit by a railgun shot behind a wall in Q3A?

Still miles better than this. In a polished game it's a rare occasion, in PoE it's a constant "shot behind a wall".

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That's desync my friend, and those servers aren't even handling thousands on concurrent players, they got at most 32 players to keep track of at any given time.

Party in Path of Exile = 6 people max, it's not a MMO, although it feels like one (sadly). So just 6 players in an instance and a group of monsters around them.
And yes, there is a lot of these instances, but we have desync not because servers are overloaded, I assure you that.

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f3rret wrote:

I mean think about it, what does the PoE server have to handle?
It has to handle:
Map generation for all connected players.
Monster AI and movement for all connected players.
Race and ladder stats for all players in near real-time.
Character stats for all connected players.
Stashes and Guild stashes for all connected players.
Microtransactions and payment processing for all users.
This Forum
This website
Interface between this website and the game data base.
Random generation of items
Random generation of maps