Manually trading with people is great fun!

really nice post by OP

my experience was I saw a WTB post for an aurseize, I do have one lying around so I pm'ed the dude and said my price for 2 gcp. The very well mannered dude then replied

"I will offer 1 gcp+1alc max for those gloves, nobody would buy those gloves for that price so might as well sell them to me =)" not the exact quote but has the same message.

I would normally have given the gloves for his price if not for the dude's well mannered demeanor. I then posted those gloves as 2 chaos and it sold quickly.

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iamstryker wrote:
I think you missed the point.


Sorry I see the point now after reviewing the thread a few more times.
It isn't actually a discussion, just a circle jerk. It seems it is more and more common to mistake a valid thread for a circlejerk these days.
When I sell something, unless it is a well traded item with an easy to find price (unique) I just say " Offer what you think is fair." 90% of the time I accept whatever they offer. I'd rather be playing that messing around with trade. I sold an over +100% phys dagger for 1 chaos the other day, to a guy who was pretty new. He was elated. I also sold a nice ring that I would have taken 2 chaos for for 3gcp. The guy offered that. I'll never get rich in game using this method, but it leaves a lot more time to have fun. I also can't even count the number of times I've given a newb a really good item for a fraction of it's worth, and they've come back later and thrown me some currency or some chisels. Maybe I'm stupid for having faith in people, but so far it has worked out pretty OK.
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idk, i dont trade that much but whenever i have i am usually a buyer.

in those cases i only engage in trade with someone who is listing what price they want or at least allowing the idea of "or best offer".


i like the show "american pickers" and in that show when the guy is trying to buy something if the seller asks him what his offer is the guy will often say:

"You want me to buy and sell it at same time?"


this is what the "make an offer" sellers are doing, they are being lazy and asking the buyers to also do the selling for them. just refuse to enter into trade with sellers who do not bother to list their prices and it will get better, reinforce bad behavior and you get what many of you are describing now...
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i actually recall trading being much smoother back in the 90s when i first started playing online games. but then somewhere around 05 or so people suddenly lost all form of social skills and trading became hell;

"How much for bla bla"
"offer"
*makes and offer*
"bye"

this would be the standard trading conversation

Last edited by fsg#3483 on Jul 29, 2013, 2:14:00 PM
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BigRussianDude wrote:
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iamstryker wrote:
I think you missed the point.


Sorry I see the point now after reviewing the thread a few more times.
It isn't actually a discussion, just a circle jerk. It seems it is more and more common to mistake a valid thread for a circlejerk these days.


The thread is much more valid than your whiny posts in it. Your advice is basically just not to trade? Wow, How about you don't post in a thread that bothers you so much?
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Infarkt wrote:
Today, Live in standard:

me: - Hi i wtb your item from your shop, u listed it for 20 chaos.
him: + Oh
+ A1norm
- Ok, but i have only 14 Chaos. Can i give u 6 Regrets plus those 14 Chaos?
+ no
+ 20 Chaos
- but a regret is same or more worth actually. Well, do u like 2 Fusings for each chaos?
+ 20 chaos....
- Can i give u some gcps? I give u 4 gcps and 14 Chaos, thats pure overpay, whatever u want,
but i only have 14 chaos.
+ no
- Will u please wait till i trade my orbs for chaos?
no answer/saw him then in lunaris 2 mins later
i traded fast 2 Fusing per chaos, normal rate, 3 minutes
and then we finally traded, i thought that he wont react now or smth else, but he did :)

So a good ending here. But...well...nevermind.

:)

This trading-system feels like its from before millenium


If something is listed for 20 chaos why would you try to buy it for not 20 chaos...? Do the conversion in advance then contact the guy and buy the item.
I will take some equiv if I just toss a price out in trade chat as long as its reasonable, but if I listed a price on forums Ina specific currency I would expect you to trade for the currency in advance instead of expecting that I want to trade to currency cause you didn't feel like it...
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H4T3MONG3R wrote:

If something is listed for 20 chaos why would you try to buy it for not 20 chaos...?


Because you don't have 20 chaos and would like the item.

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Do the conversion in advance then contact the guy and buy the item.


He contacted in game, and from his end of the conversation relatively promptly said he didn't have 20 chaos.


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I will take some equiv if I just toss a price out in trade chat as long as its reasonable, but if I listed a price on forums Ina specific currency I would expect you to trade for the currency in advance instead of expecting that I want to trade to currency cause you didn't feel like it...


And some people don't mind taking equiv currency at all. Is it not worth even asking?
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syrioforel wrote:
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H4T3MONG3R wrote:

If something is listed for 20 chaos why would you try to buy it for not 20 chaos...?


Because you don't have 20 chaos and would like the item.

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Do the conversion in advance then contact the guy and buy the item.


He contacted in game, and from his end of the conversation relatively promptly said he didn't have 20 chaos.


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I will take some equiv if I just toss a price out in trade chat as long as its reasonable, but if I listed a price on forums Ina specific currency I would expect you to trade for the currency in advance instead of expecting that I want to trade to currency cause you didn't feel like it...


And some people don't mind taking equiv currency at all. Is it not worth even asking?


no its always worth asking. nothing is wrong with trying to buy things for equiv, but it seems like that post and a lot of others complain when someone wont take equiv for their items. the point I was trying to make is that if I need chaos or alchs or whatever I am asking for that giving me something I don't need even if its similar value really would just make extra work for me, but when sellers tell people they don't want equiv sometimes they are made out to be dicks when really they just would rather not do a bunch of conversion after the transaction.
when you need a pair of scissors and I hand you a hammer and say its worth the same amount just convert it thatd be kind of weird.
believe it or not people do use orbs for something other than currency.
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dspair wrote:
Yeah, thanks god we don't have an auction house. Manual trading is so much fun.

The auction house is what ruined D3, not boring stat system, or casualised skilltree, or lack of... well, everything else. Thanks god we don't have a fast and easy auction house!

the problem of AH is that people will play it more than the game

but at this point manual trading is also like a mini-game that is frustrating. Im not sure there can be any in-betweens in the online arpgs nowadays.
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