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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal wrote:
(3) The 5xx crit dmg is displayed in the char screen or just extra critical multiplier % mods from items and passives / supports? Also 5xx crit dmg would be multiplying damage by 6xx not 5xx, right? Since its 5xx% INCREASE
You clearly do not know what you are saying.
I think he knows exactly what he is saying. If you don't understand it then you are obviously just ignorant, much like you assume everyone else is.
So you know.
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You are saying the "5xx%" is a multiplier of "6xx%" because it is an "INCREASE" so yes runeboy you DID say that the crit damage is more than it actually is.
Which is correct. If you do 100 damage and have a 500% crit multiplier then your damage on crit would be 100 * 6.... not 100 * 5
If you have a crit multiplier of 587% then you would multiply by 6.87, not 5.87 since you are doing 100% of your normal damage +587% extra damage.
in summation, congrats for being a self loather.
or you could just ignore again. Doesn't really matter.
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Posted bythepmrc#0256on Jun 27, 2013, 4:27:43 PM
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You guys didn't even know that enfeeble and map mods affect reflect damage. Now you are going to tell me how crit multiplier works? Hilarious.
IGN: ThrobbinRobin
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Posted bySodomee#2062on Jun 27, 2013, 4:54:25 PM
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You guys didn't even know that enfeeble and map mods affect reflect damage. Now you are going to tell me how crit multiplier works? Hilarious.
You know whats actually hilarious? The fact that you think you are intelligent. Comedy gold I tell ya.
If you do 1 damage and have 500% crit multiplier, how much damage do you do on a crit? This is really the most basic of basic here. It is very clear that you do not understand how this works based on your replys here, but you can at least show that you have learned something by answering this very simple question.
FWIW I never said anything about enfeeble/reflect interaction. I am simply calling you out for your blatant ignorance as to how crit multiplier works, and I am only really doing that because you like to call other people ignorant.
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Posted bythepmrc#0256on Jun 27, 2013, 4:59:50 PM
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You guys didn't even know that enfeeble and map mods affect reflect damage. Now you are going to tell me how crit multiplier works? Hilarious.
You know whats actually hilarious? The fact that you think you are intelligent. Comedy gold I tell ya.
If you do 1 damage and have 500% crit multiplier, how much damage do you do on a crit? This is really the most basic of basic here. It is very clear that you do not understand how this works based on your replys here, but you can at least show that you have learned something by answering this very simple question.
FWIW I never said anything about enfeeble/reflect interaction. I am simply calling you out for your blatant ignorance as to how crit multiplier works, and I am only really doing that because you like to call other people ignorant.
I said guys. If you lumped yourself with every other idiot that isn't my fault lol.
The answer is 5 damage. If you believe otherwise please show me where you get the info. Runeboy thinks the answer is 6 damage and if you believe him you are just as intelligent as he is. Please stop posting ignorance in my thread now. KTHXBYE.
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Posted bySodomee#2062on Jun 27, 2013, 5:12:15 PM
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Sodomee wrote:
I have no life.
Joined: June 26, 2013 2:10 AM
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Well. You kinda got him there! Anyway, his account was created to evade a ban, in case you really don't know what you are dealing with.
Although I will say, Sodomee, that while I understand your frustration (you were looking for other people confirming a bug in reflect, which is quite possible, and got advice on how to play instead: how annoying), one is usually best off attempting to be above such things.
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Posted byCourageous#0687on Jun 27, 2013, 5:26:19 PM
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Sodomee wrote:
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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal wrote:
Joined: June 26, 2013 2:10 AM
Last Visited: June 27, 2013 2:03 PM
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Well. You kinda got him there! Anyway, his account was created to evade a ban, in case you really don't know what you are dealing with.
Although I will say, Sodomee, that while I understand your frustration (you were looking for other people confirming a bug in reflect, which is quite possible, and got advice on how to play instead: how annoying), one is usually best off attempting to be above such things.
Thanks for your reasoning and understanding.
My main reason for posting this thread and the one in the bug section was to get the devs to look into this issue ASAP.
IGN: ThrobbinRobin
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Posted bySodomee#2062on Jun 27, 2013, 5:44:14 PM
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You guys didn't even know that enfeeble and map mods affect reflect damage. Now you are going to tell me how crit multiplier works? Hilarious.
They don't. Enfeeble affects the damage the cursed monster deals, not the damage you deal that's reflected to you.
Map mods that affect monster damage likewise affect their damage, not your damage being reflected.
If you're enfeebled, or there's a map mod affecting your damage, then that will affect your damage and thus the amount reflected back to you. But I'm pretty sure that's not what you're talking about.
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Posted byMark_GGGon Jun 28, 2013, 8:44:45 PMGrinding Gear Games
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Mark_GGG wrote:
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Sodomee wrote:
You guys didn't even know that enfeeble and map mods affect reflect damage. Now you are going to tell me how crit multiplier works? Hilarious.
They don't. Enfeeble affects the damage the cursed monster deals, not the damage you deal that's reflected to you.
Map mods that affect monster damage likewise affect their damage, not your damage being reflected.
If you're enfeebled, or there's a map mod affecting your damage, then that will affect your damage and thus the amount reflected back to you. But I'm pretty sure that's not what you're talking about.
lol Knew it.
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Posted bySL4Y3R#7487on Jun 28, 2013, 8:57:32 PMBanned
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thepmrc wrote:
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Sodomee wrote:
You guys didn't even know that enfeeble and map mods affect reflect damage. Now you are going to tell me how crit multiplier works? Hilarious.
You know whats actually hilarious? The fact that you think you are intelligent. Comedy gold I tell ya.
If you do 1 damage and have 500% crit multiplier, how much damage do you do on a crit? This is really the most basic of basic here. It is very clear that you do not understand how this works based on your replys here, but you can at least show that you have learned something by answering this very simple question.
FWIW I never said anything about enfeeble/reflect interaction. I am simply calling you out for your blatant ignorance as to how crit multiplier works, and I am only really doing that because you like to call other people ignorant.
lol, please show me where critical strike multiplier says "increase"? By it's very definition, it MULTIPLIES the damage you deal by the figure stated. That's why base crit multiplier is 150%. That is if you have no crit multi on gear or passives, you crit, you do 1.5x the damage. If you have 600% crit multiplier, you crit, you do 6x times the damage.
Pretty simple, no? There's nothing that suggests having 600% crit multiplier means you do 7 times the damage, lol.
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Posted byUnderOmerta#1203on Jun 28, 2013, 9:10:33 PM
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They don't. Enfeeble affects the damage the cursed monster deals, not the damage you deal that's reflected to you.
Map mods that affect monster damage likewise affect their damage, not your damage being reflected.
If you're enfeebled, or there's a map mod affecting your damage, then that will affect your damage and thus the amount reflected back to you. But I'm pretty sure that's not what you're talking about.
So essentially, to take more damage from reflect, you need to be cursed with Vulnerability in the case of physical damage, or have shock stacks on yourself.
Or punishment of course.
Would projectile weakness on the player modify reflect when you fire a projectile at a reflect monster? Or is the reflect damage not considered a projectile, and thus not modified.
I would assume the first simply because it's consistent with other attacks in that reflect isn't modified by extra damage from monsters.
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