The Palpable and Uninformed Hate and Dismissal of POE1 Veterans Sounding the Alarm is Worrying

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hboi#6131 wrote:

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Kraythax#2592 wrote:

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baconbyte#0146 wrote:

What are you expecting 5 days before Christmas man????? And why do you keep asking for server resets???? It will be radio silence until the second week of January you know this. Nothing is going to change in the game for the next 3 weeks at least. We're not getting any big changes/additions until probably march at the earliest. You acting like you've played POE forever constantly making posts you know they'll never see cause you know they're not in the office. You know their schedule and turn around times. This happens every december especially right after a content release. The changes they've made so far are great and heading in the right direction. EA is about balancing stuff which they've made 3 hard passes at so far with a bunch of small stuff.

I said GGG needs to listen to the veterans and that non veterans are just posting insults and emotion without considered content.

And here you are making my point.

Thanks.

The devs are keeping POE1 alive for you veterans so you can play the game the way you want to play it. They have a new vision for POE2. Stick to your game and we will stick to ours. Stop trying to make the game we like the same as poe1. We don't want it. We like POE2 the way it is with some minor tweeks and balancing issues addressed here and there.

We've lost 50% of our PoE1 content this year and that number had been climbing over time. You say PoE1 will continue to exist but I'm very skeptical. We were supposed to have a new league but it got pushed to February, after already skipping a league this year. They literally told us they've taken devs away from 1 to work on 2. Until they double their entire team size I don't have faith that 1 will continue to exist as it used to.

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dofkin40#3130 wrote:

jonathon said "you don't need to pay attention to resistances in acts" I believe him. If I get gigged by an ability in a boss fight, i'll swap out my charm. I'm doing fine. If you are having trouble, think about what you are doing and adjust.

Freeze kills you on geonor? swap in thawing charm. Viper Napuatizi giving you headaches with her hovering around and the guys shooting at you? swap out to poison immune charm.

You certainly don't need chaos resist in act 2. I'm not even sure I had rare jewelery in act 2. pay attention.

Just like poe 1, people will get faster in acts. you'll know what you need to do to progress smoothly. It just won't be "make sure i have 60 cold resist at merveil" It will be "better get the thawing charm from finn I haven't dropped one".

Is thawing charm actually capable of recharging midfight? With all charges spent on a single use for 3 secs seems to be impossible to utilize em without nice investment in recharging. Maybe smth changed with belt rework but still sounds unbeliveable for a1 geonor if youre not that good at mechanical skills.
The issue youve presented with merveil is that its the boss that requires your build to deal with the most annoying ailment asap. If you use her as a good checkpoint to get more cold res/chill immunity then your build should work fine in the later campaign - the thing that bosses were checkmarks for you build is what most poeple miss nowadays cuz league starters exist.

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Turddog#8292 wrote:

You guys need to stop with the “I invested into POE1 so therefore….”

You PAID for a POE1 product in which YOU got. The company GGG takes some of that profit and decides what they want to do with it.

You got your reward with POE 1 already, but to act like GGG is beholden to ANYONE as how they want to invest THEIR profit is not ok, it is entirely up to them to decide.

If they dont listen to their long supporting player base that would be a very bad business decision. To abandon your base in HOPES of acquiring a different base without the marketing budget of Blizzard? That's a very sketchy business direction.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

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Poe2WarriorMan#6401 wrote:

Yea youre right this is the whiners talking points and demands

No, that's just you whining. You even go as far as making stuff up to whine about, which is cute. We get it, you like everything about PoE 2 and think it's the perfect game - and it doesn't need player feedback on any mechanics or design decisions, which would make it the first EA ever in that regard.

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Turddog#8292 wrote:

You got your reward with POE 1 already, but to act like GGG is beholden to ANYONE as how they want to invest THEIR profit, is entirely up to them.

So, if GGG's aim is to make PoE 2 a true successor of PoE 1, where players return league after league, spending thousands of hours in the endgame, you don't think they should listen to the players willing to put in those hours? Like... At all?

No we don't think it's a perfect game. It needs some balancing and more time in the oven. However his list of what whiners want is accurate. It may be in a long drawn out form with an attempt to be coherent and intelligent. But in every single one I've seen its listing the demands you people are making. It's ridiculous.

More loot
No sanctum/ultimatum
No death affects
etc

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baconbyte#0146 wrote:

veteran player who joined in 2019 only has 2 chars in settler league and only ever kill infinite hunger of any end-game boss, never even killed uber atziri not a single breechlord..... sure buddy I've been playing since open beta. I pretty much stopped poe with ritual before you even started playing it. Maybe you've have been playing longer your account was just banned cause you act like an asshat on the forums.

And as a player who first started in Warbands League, then played on-and-off around Prophecy and really started engaging with every single league from Essence onwards, I can tell you that the future of PoE 2 as a seasonal live-service f2p game looks grim right now.

PoE 2 itself isn't horrible if you look at it as a singleplayer game that you buy once, play once through the campaign and then forget about. But that isn't what the game is trying to be, that isn't the business model the devs are going for. And people who have put thousands of hours into PoE 1 can see that the game in its current state has many problems that may not be apparent to every player. That's all.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

We get it, you like everything about PoE 2 and think it's the perfect game - and it doesn't need player feedback on any mechanics or design decisions, which would make it the first EA ever in that regard.

Nope thats not true I even posted my issues with the end game on mechanics see here:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3654254

And even balance on Energy shield in its current state:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3645070

Warrior suggestion for its slow-like attacks
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3652410

If you want to start making things up it doesnt really help your cause Phrazz, especially when you commented in my ES broken post too.



Ill link you what all you guys complain about on a daily basis, right down to demanding for the 20 slot warrior ascension bag because its "unfair" that only titan can get it

Point is everything I put in that list above and Ill list it again here in a spoiler:


Is just a small daily sample of the whine-fest that is on early access feedback. Yuu guys flat out want a GAME CHANGE with all these demands. It might not even be POE at the end of the day if you all had your way. Just a load up with cheat codes and watch the screen blow up

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hboi#6131 wrote:

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

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Poe2WarriorMan#6401 wrote:

Yea youre right this is the whiners talking points and demands

No, that's just you whining. You even go as far as making stuff up to whine about, which is cute. We get it, you like everything about PoE 2 and think it's the perfect game - and it doesn't need player feedback on any mechanics or design decisions, which would make it the first EA ever in that regard.

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Turddog#8292 wrote:

You got your reward with POE 1 already, but to act like GGG is beholden to ANYONE as how they want to invest THEIR profit, is entirely up to them.

So, if GGG's aim is to make PoE 2 a true successor of PoE 1, where players return league after league, spending thousands of hours in the endgame, you don't think they should listen to the players willing to put in those hours? Like... At all?

No we don't think it's a perfect game. It needs some balancing and more time in the oven. However his list of what whiners want is accurate. It may be in a long drawn out form with an attempt to be coherent and intelligent. But in every single one I've seen its listing the demands you people are making. It's ridiculous.

More loot
No sanctum/ultimatum
No death affects
etc

The thread I referred you to has much deeper analysis than that. You choose to simply crap-post and half read things.

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Kraythax#2592 wrote:

If they dont listen to their long supporting player base that would be a very bad business decision. To abandon your base in HOPES of acquiring a different base without the marketing budget of Blizzard? That's a very sketchy business direction.

On contrary. Why should they compete with themselves? PoE2 is not meant to take players away from PoE1. They dont want the same game but shinier. It is a good thing. PoE2 is not here to replace PoE1.

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kuciol#0426 wrote:

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Kraythax#2592 wrote:

If they dont listen to their long supporting player base that would be a very bad business decision. To abandon your base in HOPES of acquiring a different base without the marketing budget of Blizzard? That's a very sketchy business direction.

On contrary. Why should they compete with themselves? PoE2 is not meant to take players away from PoE1. They dont want the same game but shinier. It is a good thing. PoE2 is not here to replace PoE1.

Yes it is. POE1 devs going to POE2. POE1 losing league content, other resources. POE1 microtransactions available in POE2 and vice versa. Of course it is built to be a successor and its not competing with themselves. Its the same reason Blizzard puts out Diablo 3 and then 4 and some day 5. They bring back their core players and attract new players. POE has to do this every league. Your assessment of this being a whole new game for a different player base is, empirically, FALSE.

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Kraythax#2592 wrote:

Me? I have never been banned from this game.

So you're a veteran player who joined in settlers has never once gotten close to completing any league achievements or killed any end-game boss...... sure buddy