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What are you expecting 5 days before Christmas man????? And why do you keep asking for server resets???? It will be radio silence until the second week of January you know this. Nothing is going to change in the game for the next 3 weeks at least. We're not getting any big changes/additions until probably march at the earliest. You acting like you've played POE forever constantly making posts you know they'll never see cause you know they're not in the office. You know their schedule and turn around times. This happens every december especially right after a content release. The changes they've made so far are great and heading in the right direction. EA is about balancing stuff which they've made 3 hard passes at so far with a bunch of small stuff.
I said GGG needs to listen to the veterans and that non veterans are just posting insults and emotion without considered content.
And here you are making my point.
Thanks.
What’s causing this great divide is people that keep throwing “We are the POE veterans therefore we are the gatekeepers of POE 2”
Many gamers here who come from different ARPGS, FPS, Third person shooters, sports games (ok maybe not them) have feedback to give on what’s fun/not fun.
A lot of people are enjoying the base game and how the mechanics play throughout the campaign.
We are not saying it’s perfect, but trust me it’s a damn good game so far.
Stop being dismissive because we don’t have all the league badges by our names as if we don’t count as a consumer.
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Posted byTurddog#8292on Dec 20, 2024, 3:55:54 PM
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Look, there's a lot of things for both devs and players to realize with PoE2 right now, some good and some bad.
But one of those things to realize, is that the main thing PoE1 vets are saying as their "alarm bell" is just "This is a different game, not PoE1 with better graphics like I wanted :(" and the response they're getting is "Yes. It's supposed to be. This isn't PoE1-2, It's PoE2."
And both games are continuing because there's expectation that many PoE1 vets will prefer PoE 1 and keep playing that instead.
A lot of the feedback from those of us who played the first game has really just been "stop being different from the first game" but it's different on purpose.
You could honestly say the two games have a different target audience.
Some series don't even keep their games in the same genre.
Darksiders went from third person hack'n'slash rpg to isometric arpg style.
Dragon Age 2 plays nothing like Dragon Age Origins.
PoE2 is not supposed to be more PoE1.
As a PoE1 vet, I like PoE2 better. There's more actual gameplay, I actually use multiple skills here, I have to actually pay attention instead of watching youtube while holding left click.
Exactly. The 'vets' think they know better then everyone. poe1 was never a mainstream success. Just a very niche game. POE2 first 2 weeks numbers have blown the original out of the water. The devs know what they are doing. The game is not going to die because it's 'too hard' or 'too punishing'.
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Posted byhboi#6131on Dec 20, 2024, 3:56:26 PM
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There are courses in C++.
Go make the game you want.
PoE is great.
PoE2 is great.
Take your pick.
But to think the company was going to invest to make 20k players happy is crazy.
They going bigger.
No idea what me programming has to do with THIS game. Making a game is much more than programming. A lot more. At any rate, yes I can write C++ and very few game devs do these days. However, were I running the studio I would listen to the players that gave me thousands of dollars and thousands of hours on my old game when making an obvious successor to POE.
All you have done in this is to prove my original point about all emotion, no content and bump my thread ... thanks.
Well, thank god you are not the one running the studio. The dumbest thing GGG could do is cater to the already captured player base. POE1 isn't going away, there is no reason at all to just make POE2 be POE1 with pretty graphics.
If the company wants to expand and survive they need to attract more players, not just keep the same core group they already have.
Things would be different if POE2 were a replacement for POE1, but it is not. They have been very clear on that point.
If you want the POE1 style of play, it's still there for you.
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Posted byValsacar#0268on Dec 20, 2024, 3:57:00 PM
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POE1 vet here and its not POE1 vets being dismissed its just whiners.
POE2 is a perfect direction for the game.
All the whiners just want this game to be a reskinned version of POE1 and WORSE with there incessant whiny silly and over the top suggestions:
such as:
"OmgWaH REMOVE SEnCTum"
"REmOVe HonOUR Cuz um ByaD at Melee"
"omGwAh REmOvE oN dEaTH EFFeCtS"
"BoSsEs OVerTuned, nerf 70% health"
"I wAnt the 20 ItEm Slot AScENdANCY tHaT waRRIOr GETs"
"mEleE sUcKS"
"mINiON sUCKS"
"sPeLL cAsTeRS sUCK"
"drOWnING oRBs ARE tOO hard TO nOT sTANd IN"
"tHe cAmpaIgN IS tew lAWNg"
"rEMOvE dODge roLL, i wAnT bLINKs BACK"
"neEd moAR leWt"
"MoVEmEnt SPEeD ShouLD JUst BE AWn My BootS, I Dun WANNA CRAFT"
"ReMOve RESiStAnces"
"No DEath ConSEquenCE, I ShoulD beAble to DAH and NoTIng Happun"
"MKEe an EASy MOde"
"YEW nErfEd Mah BRokeN BUild WHY???"
"Eyem In End Game And SOMEhow I have NO GoLD, Where Gold?"
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Posted byPoe2WarriorMan#6401on Dec 20, 2024, 3:59:13 PMOn Probation
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POE1 vet here and its not POE1 vets being dismissed its just whiners.
POE2 is a perfect direction for the game.
All the whiners just want this game to be a reskinned version of POE1 and WORSE with there incessant whiny silly and over the top suggestions:
such as:
"OmgWaH REMOVE SEnCTum"
"REmOVe HonOUR Cuz um ByaD at Melee"
"omGwAh REmOvE oN dEaTH EFFeCtS"
"BoSsEs OVerTuned, nerf 70% health"
"I wAnt the 20 ItEm Slot AScENdANCY tHaT waRRIOr GETs"
"mEleE sUcKS"
"mINiON sUCKS"
"sPeLL cAsTeRS sUCK"
"drOWnING oRBs ARE tOO hard TO nOT sTANd IN"
"tHe cAmpaIgN IS tew lAWNg"
"rEMOvE dODge roLL, i wAnT bLINKs BACK"
"neEd moAR leWt"
"MoVEmEnt SPEeD ShouLD JUst BE AWn My BootS, I Dun WANNA CRAFT"
"ReMOve RESiStAnces"
"No DEath ConSEquenCE, I ShoulD beAble to DAH and NoTIng Happun"
"MKEe an EASy MOde"
"YEW nErfEd Mah BRokeN BUild WHY???"
"Eyem In End Game And SOMEhow I have NO GoLD, Where Gold?"
I think I have enough "league badges" next to my name to count as a consumer. You are completely correct.
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Posted byValsacar#0268on Dec 20, 2024, 4:00:57 PM
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The devs are keeping POE1 alive for you veterans so you can play the game the way you want to play it. They have a new vision for POE2. Stick to your game and we will stick to ours. Stop trying to make the game we like the same as poe1. We don't want it. We like POE2 the way it is with some minor tweeks and balancing issues addressed here and there.
It appears you missed the title of the game. POE2 (note the 2) meaning a sequel to POE. It uses the same world, same NPCs, same cultures, some of the same systems. You come in here with this arrogant "all you boomers suck" attitude, which has no ACTUAL CONTENT and then you miss the fact that it is US that have made this game possible.
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Posted byKraythax#2592on Dec 20, 2024, 4:02:20 PM
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Actually, it's relatively few 'newcomers' to PoE2 who are trolling and spewing hate at the PoE 1 community who are - rightfully - quite leery about the current state of the game.
The most vocal and vitriolic hate spewers are the 'git guud' crowd from PoE 1 who have the woefully mistaken belief that everyone - EVERYONE - should play THEIR game THEIR way and no other. Those are the same ones who sit in the basement, play every minute they're awake, and do have iterative knowledge of the game because they have no other life.
And, unfortunately, those who spew the most hate are the ones GGG listens to.
Patch Notes 3.15:
Fixed a bug where players believed the game was playable. This has been corrected and made retroactive.
Patch Notes 3.19:
Fixed a bug where players adapted to 3.15. This bug cannot be corrected, so we have implemented a 90% reduction in item access as a punishment.
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Posted byBlaqWolf#1151on Dec 20, 2024, 4:02:32 PM
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Actually, it's relatively few 'newcomers' to PoE2 who are trolling and spewing hate at the PoE 1 community who are - rightfully - quite leery about the current state of the game.
The most vocal and vitriolic hate spewers are the 'git guud' crowd from PoE 1 who have the woefully mistaken belief that everyone - EVERYONE - should play THEIR game THEIR way and no other. Those are the same ones who sit in the basement, play every minute they're awake, and do have iterative knowledge of the game because they have no other life.
And, unfortunately, those who spew the most hate are the ones GGG listens to.
Well since most of the paying customers for a long term with POE1 agree and since the streamers agree. I have hope they will listen to us and not the "git gud" crowd.
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Posted byKraythax#2592on Dec 20, 2024, 4:04:56 PM
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POE1 vet here and its not POE1 vets being dismissed its just whiners.
POE2 is a perfect direction for the game.
All the whiners just want this game to be a reskinned version of POE1 and WORSE with there incessant whiny silly and over the top suggestions:
such as:
"OmgWaH REMOVE SEnCTum"
"REmOVe HonOUR Cuz um ByaD at Melee"
"omGwAh REmOvE oN dEaTH EFFeCtS"
"BoSsEs OVerTuned, nerf 70% health"
"I wAnt the 20 ItEm Slot AScENdANCY tHaT waRRIOr GETs"
"mEleE sUcKS"
"mINiON sUCKS"
"sPeLL cAsTeRS sUCK"
"drOWnING oRBs ARE tOO hard TO nOT sTANd IN"
"tHe cAmpaIgN IS tew lAWNg"
"rEMOvE dODge roLL, i wAnT bLINKs BACK"
"neEd moAR leWt"
"MoVEmEnt SPEeD ShouLD JUst BE AWn My BootS, I Dun WANNA CRAFT"
"ReMOve RESiStAnces"
"No DEath ConSEquenCE, I ShoulD beAble to DAH and NoTIng Happun"
"MKEe an EASy MOde"
"YEW nErfEd Mah BRokeN BUild WHY???"
"Eyem In End Game And SOMEhow I have NO GoLD, Where Gold?"
And another vitriolic post lacking in content. LOL.
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Posted byKraythax#2592on Dec 20, 2024, 4:05:29 PM
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Change everything to be exactly like in PoE1 or the game will die cause I will quit!!!
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Posted byKashou#2868on Dec 20, 2024, 4:06:41 PM
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