Early Access Feedback - Floored by the power spike of TRADING. This will ruin the game. - Forum

" WildPartyHat#6856 wrote: " Solmyr77#1930 wrote: " Okman_X#9045 wrote: This is not even a real problem... 1) There is always the Solo Self Found (SSF) option! 2) None of the "overpowered" items are cheap. Setting up your resistances does not mean you will become overpowered. Either OP is a new player who has no idea about the end game of PoE or trolling. The only problem in this thread is that this forum is an echo chamber of trade enthusiasts - can be expected here given how PoE embraces trade. The downsides of trade are simply ignored. You're right that endgame stuff isn't cheap, but people are blatantly ignorant of how much player power you can get from trading those 10 ex you find during the campaign vs what power you can get from actually PLAYING THE GAME. If the game itself (SSF) doesn't provide you with relevant upgrades along the path, that is a design flaw. Pay to win cheapens the experience. 1. If the people who enjoy and support the game enough to use the forums enjoy trade, then isn't it correct to cater to the crowd that's funding the game? 2. I think many trade enthusiasts, myself included, would call trading "playing the game" 3. Trading is not pay to win. Pay to win refers to games that offer in-game power for real money. GGG does not endorse or allow RMT. Hideout warriors unite!!! Farming salt on the forums since 2024	Posted by Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index#1288 on Dec 18, 2024, 6:34:27 PM Quote this Post
This post is damn funny, i mean if you dislike trade, just don't? POE trading contributes to like 50% of my interest in this game, no matter it is POE1 or POE2. If this trading does not exist, it is a dead game to me. Like Last Epoch, i had a better time in the trading faction compare to the SSF faction, although a lot of loot drop, i do not have a lot of time to grind out the base i need and when i craft it and it bricks, it is just a waste of my limited game time. L take.	Posted by _Snake__#2625 on Dec 18, 2024, 7:30:34 PM Quote this Post
For all the haters saying this is a niche view: https://youtu.be/ZYzwTOTe1H0?t=17 It's a shame we have to parrot what streamers are saying, and we can't simply let ideas stand on their own, but this is the era that we are living in. And despite saying this thread can die assuming John Rogers is on the case with the video I edited into the first post and that we can safely assume the devs will curtail trade on their own, I'm starting to think it's important we keep the pressure up. Who knows what forces like Tencent or money hungry forces might sacrifice gameplay for what they percieve to be potential revenue streams gatekeeping power behind cash one way or another. Last edited by crazyfingers619#3901 on Dec 24, 2024, 7:12:58 PM	Posted by crazyfingers619#3901 on Dec 24, 2024, 7:11:45 PM Quote this Post
" crazyfingers619#3901 wrote: It makes the experience less fun, for the vast majority of players. Speak for yourself bud, if this game didn't have trade i would never play it again	Posted by kickaxe88#3563 on Dec 24, 2024, 7:12:49 PM Quote this Post
" kickaxe88#3563 wrote: " crazyfingers619#3901 wrote: It makes the experience less fun, for the vast majority of players. Speak for yourself bud, if this game didn't have trade i would never play it again Tell me you didn't read the thread without telling me you didn't read the thread. I'm not asking for no trade, this thread is highlighting the issues of inflated economy and that we need CURTAILED trade.	Posted by crazyfingers619#3901 on Dec 24, 2024, 7:14:01 PM Quote this Post
" BulawOwRealOne#5430 wrote: You know SSF exists ? It exists in the way that not playing the game also exists. It doesn’t change the game in any way. The drops are the same you just are stuck with junk. It might as well not even be a mode at all because it changes nothing. It’s just player choice to be gimped by terrible drops.	Posted by maquino85#7657 on Dec 24, 2024, 7:28:08 PM Quote this Post
" kickaxe88#3563 wrote: " crazyfingers619#3901 wrote: It makes the experience less fun, for the vast majority of players. Speak for yourself bud, if this game didn't have trade i would never play it again Why not?	Posted by Sickness#1007 on Dec 24, 2024, 7:28:41 PM Quote this Post
" crazyfingers619#3901 wrote: For all the haters saying this is a niche view: https://youtu.be/ZYzwTOTe1H0?t=17 It's a shame we have to parrot what streamers are saying, and we can't simply let ideas stand on their own, but this is the era that we are living in. And despite saying this thread can die assuming John Rogers is on the case with the video I edited into the first post and that we can safely assume the devs will curtail trade on their own, I'm starting to think it's important we keep the pressure up. Who knows what forces like Tencent or money hungry forces might sacrifice gameplay for what they percieve to be potential revenue streams gatekeeping power behind cash one way or another. Why would anybody care about what streamers think? I play like I enjoy playing the game, and thats with trade. I don't care what ziz/krip/lance says about it, if they wanna play SSF they can go play SSF, if they think SSF sucks they should just shut up and play trade instead of whining Farming salt on the forums since 2024	Posted by Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index#1288 on Dec 24, 2024, 8:14:56 PM Quote this Post
" Sickness#1007 wrote: " kickaxe88#3563 wrote: " crazyfingers619#3901 wrote: It makes the experience less fun, for the vast majority of players. Speak for yourself bud, if this game didn't have trade i would never play it again Why not? One commenter, SSF doesn't exist on Console Currently... To this comment, he can't cheese n buy his way through the game... Tons of players that way, forced to "grind" is not how they play, they'd rather slog one throw away char, then "buy" gear for their real char and make the game TRIVIAL... IMO, the slog/grind currently that console has it to much... Going to lose players if GGG don't fix things... Still not out of act 2, 70+ hours in, wearing TRASH gear... Game is very "put offing" currently... Check check the link below... YouTube Streams Daily --> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWwC9omdiFyZuI_9Y6c9qbA	Posted by Ken_Koerperich#9407 on Dec 24, 2024, 8:17:06 PM Quote this Post
It'd be nice if SSF had better loot drops than trade league. Not like that is an alien concept in this day and age.	Posted by Vigilum#7111 on Dec 24, 2024, 8:21:27 PM Quote this Post