To much loot after the recent patch. EDITED: Updated with streamer video on this topic.

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AintCare#6513 wrote:

fair enough, however i feel like bumping and keeping the rare drops high for any significant amount of time is a one way street. and who knows maybe their idea with runes will provide this deterministic part to it. after all these things currently are consumable just like orbs

I think if it's kept right where it is and from here on crafting improves it won't be the end of the world. Am I finding more rares? Yes. Are they good enough to carry me alone? No. Granted it's only been a few hours I haven't gotten 3 relevant stats on a gear piece yet. I expect I will at some point, but I don't think ground loot will be viable as-is for endgame progression.

I know there are some pics of crazy drops out there already, I've only seen two that come to mind, but I don't imagine those will even come close once we can actually dig into more crafting mechanics.

I started my character today after the buff. Currently mid Act 2.

Tally so far:

1 Alchemy
0.5 Regals
0 Chaos
0 Whetstones
0 GCP
0 Jewellers

6 Rare Items total

make of that what you will.

customization ... buildcraft

Sir, you ... made my day.
Did we play the same game...or I have to grind same map 30 times so I can start customize anything? Craft what? All we have is gacha mobile game system to craft. Even pity system like vendor recipe is gone, that one always lower than your level...

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1453R#7804 wrote:

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Jokke1989#7206 wrote:

The "Go play PoE1" one liners are getting old
PoE 2 was suppoed to be "our game"
It was announced as being an expansion to PoE1
It is a sequel to PoE 1
If it should not be anything like PoE1, they should have called it something else

Like it or not, it makes perfect sense to want it to be more like PoE 1
That's how franchises usually work

Why did they bother making a new game if people like you or Vag or Dekahn are going to demand they remove absolutely everything that makes the new game different from the old one and replace it with "just PoE1"?

The Parts of Path of Exile you think are 'good' - the absurd, absolutely out-of-control scaling, the obtuse and impossible to understand crafting system(s), all the borked insanity - are the parts that make it a sub-niche of a sub-niche that's mostly written off as a cult game for weirdoes by everyone else in the world. Do you honestly, honestly think "PoE1 but shinier" would've pulled over a million keys sold and still going strong? Not bloody likely.

PoE 2 is the new shiny right now
Its launch numbers are impressive
Obviously a dated looking game like PoE 1 will never get as much hype with a season as a brand new sequel
Much of the hype is based on their trackrecord with PoE 1
Overall PoE 1 is still statistically much more impressive
The longevity, consistensy and growth
PoE 2 might do better in the long run, who knows
It also might not

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Kaboinglefop#0955 wrote:

This was the case before they split the game. They split the game exactly to keep both crowds happy. PoE1 fundamentally is not compatible with the type of game PoE2 is trying to be.

As for loot, I am vehemently against over-buffing loot until they take back what they said about no ruthless for PoE2.

POE1 of today was fundamentally incompatible with what it was during beta. POE1 tried more difficult, slower less rewarding approach already. They even added it back in ruthless and it is barely played compared to the non ruthless. You need to come to terms that POE2 will not be as successful as the devs want by catering to people who want the ruthless like experience. As for people staying on POE1, the devs have already said they cut back devs to 10 or less working on it.

Chances are they sunset it into maintenance mode while trying to push POE2 as with only around 150 employees and roughly they will not be able to keep active and good development on both games and naturally development will be prioritized on the new game, even after full release.

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The Parts of Path of Exile you think are 'good' - the absurd, absolutely out-of-control scaling, the obtuse and impossible to understand crafting system(s)

Would be nice to have currency to craft anything.
30 hours into the game and I've crafted a half decent pair of boots and a meh crossbow. No currency left for anything, still using magic items going into maps.

I get your point, but the loot and currency is a large part of what makes ARPG's fun. And I get none of it.
There should be some middle ground. Not just sloshing through one step forward than three steps back while white mobs soak up 50 bolts each.

Some might find that fun. For me it's the anthesis of fun.
Sorry I spent 100 dollars backing this game, will go back to POE1 when the next league is out. Won't call for a refund since they continue POE1 leagues, so I can spend my micro there.

The people who enjoy this sort of stuff can have your POE2.
I think people that do NOT enjoy it are allowed to be disappointed.

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nnilfoest#6766 wrote:

customization ... buildcraft

Sir, you ... made my day.
Did we play the same game...or I have to grind same map 30 times so I can start customize anything? Craft what? All we have is gacha mobile game system to craft. Even pity system like vendor recipe is gone, that one always lower than your level...

Gacha systems are more forgiving than this with guarantees, wishlists for weighting, locking of stats to reroll other stats and not lose what you have gained.

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1453R#7804 wrote:

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Jokke1989#7206 wrote:

The "Go play PoE1" one liners are getting old
PoE 2 was suppoed to be "our game"
It was announced as being an expansion to PoE1
It is a sequel to PoE 1
If it should not be anything like PoE1, they should have called it something else

Like it or not, it makes perfect sense to want it to be more like PoE 1
That's how franchises usually work

Why did they bother making a new game if people like you or Vag or Dekahn are going to demand they remove absolutely everything that makes the new game different from the old one and replace it with "just PoE1"?

The Parts of Path of Exile you think are 'good' - the absurd, absolutely out-of-control scaling, the obtuse and impossible to understand crafting system(s), all the borked insanity - are the parts that make it a sub-niche of a sub-niche that's mostly written off as a cult game for weirdoes by everyone else in the world. Do you honestly, honestly think "PoE1 but shinier" would've pulled over a million keys sold and still going strong? Not bloody likely.

Exactly.. We have a chance to capture both a new audience and an old alienated audience, while keeping their original audience with the original PoE1.

GGG should have just called it a different game instead of PoE2 to remove the damn confusion but the branding was already done.. damn.

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Nothv13#0740 wrote:

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nnilfoest#6766 wrote:

customization ... buildcraft

Sir, you ... made my day.
Did we play the same game...or I have to grind same map 30 times so I can start customize anything? Craft what? All we have is gacha mobile game system to craft. Even pity system like vendor recipe is gone, that one always lower than your level...

Gacha systems are more forgiving than this with guarantees, wishlists for weighting, locking of stats to reroll other stats and not lose what you have gained.

Please stop crushing my soul, exile.

Back to topic, I don't feel any different in loot pool either. Properly because it's like critical. If the base is so small to begin with, a big percentage is still a tiny boost.

I think the GCP buffs were overboard, but everything else I am totally on board with, especially the bad luck protection.