To much loot after the recent patch. EDITED: Updated with streamer video on this topic.

If you play poe1 and you think you need a loot filter in poe2 to hide loot, you're seriously trolling hardcore.

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

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Ideally a filter should not be required though. If there drops so much trash that you need to filter it out. You kinda argue that to much loot drops.

The game had filter support baked in at day 1. If they didn't want players to use or even need to use filters they didn't need to include them.

That is not what we are talking about though. We are not talking about what they want or intended. We are talking about a simple logic.

If you need to filter it out. Does to much loot drop? The answer is simply yes. There is no argument against it.

Now you can argue that you like that. That is completly subjective.

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That is exactly what we're talking about. Your opinion is we shouldn't need a filter, filters being in the game at inception showed GGG disagreed from the start. If they never planned on potentially dropping enough loot that players would need to filter it, they wouldn't include the option to filter.

You should obviously have the option to filter and highlight the stuff you want.
But they stated many times themselves they wanted to fix loot in poe 2. It is even why the meme "poe 2 fixes everything" started.

That does not mean they want to give you a reason to use it.

I do not buy the loot filter = GGG wants to shower you with loot as is intended.

Can someone point to me what patch? Cuz, I've had this game since the opened the doors, and there hasn't been one yet.

i mean they definetly shouldnt buff the loot even more that i agree with. But its in an alright spot right now if you ask me.

As for filters: as an option, great since i play SSF and i dont want to see hybrid or other bases on the ground, but mandatory, no.

I actually bothered to watch the (honestly felt like you were promoting a friends YouTube but that’s not my problem).

The guy has the mathematical skills of a 5 year old.
His 2nd and 3rd charts indicated difficulty, this would be irrelevant to his argument. They would not change difficulty due to a loot change, except in as much as potentially a player might with good rng be stronger.
What they should have shown, to validate his arguement, is if bosses and trash mobs drop enough loot!
His 1st graph clearly shows loot was too rare, and post patch (according to ggg site it hasn’t gone live yet) it will be balanced.

TLDR, your YouTuber (competency aside) actually says loot is/will be balanced post patch.

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Nagisawa#4090 wrote:

Can someone point to me what patch? Cuz, I've had this game since the opened the doors, and there hasn't been one yet.

100% agree based on ggg website there’s been only hotfixes and news of a forthcoming update for which we have no patch notes but some rough brush strokes of what to expect.

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

Ideally a filter should not be required though. If there drops so much trash that you need to filter it out. You kinda argue that to much loot drops.

The game had filter support baked in at day 1. If they didn't want players to use or even need to use filters they didn't need to include them.

That is not what we are talking about though. We are not talking about what they want or intended. We are talking about a simple logic.

If you need to filter it out. Does to much loot drop? The answer is simply yes. There is no argument against it.

Now you can argue that you like that. That is completly subjective.

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That is exactly what we're talking about. Your opinion is we shouldn't need a filter, filters being in the game at inception showed GGG disagreed from the start. If they never planned on potentially dropping enough loot that players would need to filter it, they wouldn't include the option to filter.

You should obviously have the option to filter and highlight the stuff you want.
But they stated many times themselves they wanted to fix loot in poe 2. It is even why the meme "poe 2 fixes everything" started.

That does not mean they want to give you a reason to use it.

They made the change to fix it lol. Why ignore the fact the GGG is incredible at gathering metrics in real time. Chris has talked several times about the granularity of data they can pull in real time, yet the less loot crowd wants to bury their heads in the sand and act like a small handful of forum posts are responsible for this change. They can see how many people took steps to upgrade their gear, failed and didn't log back in. And to your final point, yes that is what that means. They can control every aspect of this game and they are. If they decided no matter the encounter you would never drop more than 3 items they could do it and there would not need to be a filter, they could also only allow filters to change noise and highlights, but the filter is fully featured by design.

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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c0refreAk#2874 wrote:

is it really? maybe you should consider using your exalts instead of buying good gear with it.

but yea i somewhat agree, not the rarity buffs on rares or currency drop rates, but the screen clutter from too many bases starting to ramp up.

This is why loot filters exist, you can just hide every bad base and only show the ones with the biggest number on it.

Ideally a filter should not be required though. If there drops so much trash that you need to filter it out. You kinda argue that to much loot drops.

That is false. You forget that different character need different items.

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Timbo Zero#8289 wrote:

I actually bothered to watch the (honestly felt like you were promoting a friends YouTube but that’s not my problem).

The guy has the mathematical skills of a 5 year old.
His 2nd and 3rd charts indicated difficulty, this would be irrelevant to his argument. They would not change difficulty due to a loot change, except in as much as potentially a player might with good rng be stronger.
What they should have shown, to validate his arguement, is if bosses and trash mobs drop enough loot!
His 1st graph clearly shows loot was too rare, and post patch (according to ggg site it hasn’t gone live yet) it will be balanced.

TLDR, your YouTuber (competency aside) actually says loot is/will be balanced post patch.

He is not my friend no lol.

The chart is pretty simple to understand and serves to prove a point. If you read into the accuracy of it you might be taking a chart made in paint a bit to serious.

More loot = stronger char
Stronger Char = Bosses/trash mobs easier

What is wrong about that?

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Anubis2108#3783 wrote:

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Timbo Zero#8289 wrote:

I actually bothered to watch the (honestly felt like you were promoting a friends YouTube but that’s not my problem).

The guy has the mathematical skills of a 5 year old.
His 2nd and 3rd charts indicated difficulty, this would be irrelevant to his argument. They would not change difficulty due to a loot change, except in as much as potentially a player might with good rng be stronger.
What they should have shown, to validate his arguement, is if bosses and trash mobs drop enough loot!
His 1st graph clearly shows loot was too rare, and post patch (according to ggg site it hasn’t gone live yet) it will be balanced.

TLDR, your YouTuber (competency aside) actually says loot is/will be balanced post patch.

He is not my friend no lol.

The chart is pretty simple to understand and serves to prove a point. If you read into the accuracy of it you might be taking a chart made in paint a bit to serious.

More loot = stronger char
Stronger Char = Bosses/trash mobs easier

What is wrong about that?

You are correct that more loot POTENTIALLY means stronger character, and hence easier fights.
However the video was about loot drop rates, which was made before the patch to buff them, and he said drop rates were balanced in his first chart.
Now the patch has landed and the patch notes are available we can see drops haven’t yet been buffed but we know they will be soon. The post you made implied strongly that they’d been buffed and it was now too much, before the patch had arrived.

N.B. I am glad you saw my friend joke for what it was, I made it purely to suggest he was no Zizaran,ziggyd,Wudijo,Ghazzy etc the list goes on.
And yeah nothing wrong with the 2nd and 3rd charts being there but they mathematically (how he was pitching his point) invalid to the equation. How you put it was more correct and how I included potentially (as loot might be more of it but most for another build) a little more so :)