75% less flask charges is insane

I'd rather they limit players to 1 health/mana/hybrid flask and 1 utility flask. This is just gonna feel really bad outside of Pathfinder.

But but... it's more fun when its stupid impossible - I mean take away crafting, then nerf damage, then increase difficulty and Fuck with flask charges...

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Maybe a possible alternative is to make flask charges behave the same as vaal souls. If you want to flask piano, then you're gonna need to kill x times as many mobs to fill x flasks than compared to now. This encourages using only 1 or 2 flasks and the rest of them situational flasks.

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Friagram wrote:

Try killing the birds. You can kite phoenix around the map and make him only fight in the corners so the explode doesn't hit the whole area.

Minotaur is easy, just get movement skills and wait him out. You don't have to stay in one quadrant that's been sectioned off by the electrical beams. The ground slams and aoe rocks are telegraphed.

It's just another example of a player thinking they understand a fight, because they've killed it quickly with good gear... When they don't understand it at all.

There are pretty much no fights in the game that have any kind of time constraints. If you can't stay alive against a boss encounter without attacking for 5-10 minutes, you don't fully understand the fight.

Dude rly, i've done all content inside out hundreds of times. There is no need to explain me Phoenix, Mino or pretty much anything from the main quest line.

Too bad i haven't recorded that fight. Whole arena was covered in Mino circles where rocks fall. There is no place to stand still. At some moment you are out of life flask and tracking Mino, Phoenix, birds, rocks while Maven is healing them is impossible. It's just too much. 5 mill dps at that point is worth jack sh** on a stationary build like Incinerate or strike melee.

About bolded stuff, you're dead wrong. Endgame fights like UE are dps checks and if you prolong fight too much, you are dead.

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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:

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Friagram wrote:

Try killing the birds. You can kite phoenix around the map and make him only fight in the corners so the explode doesn't hit the whole area.

Minotaur is easy, just get movement skills and wait him out. You don't have to stay in one quadrant that's been sectioned off by the electrical beams. The ground slams and aoe rocks are telegraphed.

It's just another example of a player thinking they understand a fight, because they've killed it quickly with good gear... When they don't understand it at all.

There are pretty much no fights in the game that have any kind of time constraints. If you can't stay alive against a boss encounter without attacking for 5-10 minutes, you don't fully understand the fight.

Dude rly, i've done all content inside out hundreds of times. There is no need to explain me Phoenix, Mino or pretty much anything from the main quest line.

Too bad i haven't recorded that fight. Whole arena was covered in Mino circles where rocks fall. There is no place to stand still. At some moment you are out of life flask and tracking Mino, Phoenix, birds, rocks while Maven is healing them is impossible. It's just too much. 5 mill dps at that point is worth jack sh** on a stationary build like Incinerate or strike melee.

About bolded stuff, you're dead wrong. Endgame fights like UE are dps checks and if you prolong fight too much, you are dead.

If your build isn't strong enough, you can run the map with easier mods, or run it white. Nobody is making you do awaken 8 with maven. It's all optional content.

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Friagram wrote:

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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:

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Friagram wrote:

Try killing the birds. You can kite phoenix around the map and make him only fight in the corners so the explode doesn't hit the whole area.

Minotaur is easy, just get movement skills and wait him out. You don't have to stay in one quadrant that's been sectioned off by the electrical beams. The ground slams and aoe rocks are telegraphed.

It's just another example of a player thinking they understand a fight, because they've killed it quickly with good gear... When they don't understand it at all.

There are pretty much no fights in the game that have any kind of time constraints. If you can't stay alive against a boss encounter without attacking for 5-10 minutes, you don't fully understand the fight.

Dude rly, i've done all content inside out hundreds of times. There is no need to explain me Phoenix, Mino or pretty much anything from the main quest line.

Too bad i haven't recorded that fight. Whole arena was covered in Mino circles where rocks fall. There is no place to stand still. At some moment you are out of life flask and tracking Mino, Phoenix, birds, rocks while Maven is healing them is impossible. It's just too much. 5 mill dps at that point is worth jack sh** on a stationary build like Incinerate or strike melee.

About bolded stuff, you're dead wrong. Endgame fights like UE are dps checks and if you prolong fight too much, you are dead.

If your build isn't strong enough, you can run the map with easier mods, or run it white. Nobody is making you do awaken 8 with maven. It's all optional content.

And yet you are the one claiming 1 mill dps is fine for everything...

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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:

And yet you are the one claiming 1 mill dps is fine for everything...

The fights are doable, yes.
Esp if you have a build that is tanky or fast reflexes to dodge things.

Not everyone is good at the game, and that is OK.
Do the content you are able to do, with the skill set u have.
If it's too hard, try doing it at an easier level until it's easier.

Not sure what the argument is here.
You can play the game with low DPS.
Not everyone should be able to do all of the content at high difficulty levels.

For the phoenix one, probably there were some rippy map mods like -res, attack/cast sped, aoe, etc. Reroll with easier mods.

I just see people who are mad that the game will be harder, caz they think they are entitled to rip through it all regardless of skill/gear investment. That's not what GGG is about. It doesn't matter what you say anyways. GGG is going to do what they have planned. Just adapt, or don't play. It's the same to me in the end if you're here or not. But, I think it's better if more people play the game and work with the economy than not.

Endgame bosses are supposed to be hard, and maven is supposed to make them the hardest. If you can't do them that's ok.

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

So anyways, now that we're done with that little... digression, I for one think these are some great changes that will improve the game in the long run.

I guess people are going to be in the market for some resistance equipment now. No more filling 60% of your resistance holes with a bottle. Also, you'll see some different pantheon picks too I suspect.

Dev's like it when you branch out and explore their games. Time to shake up the ol-meta some.

Pretty sure no one does that.

It's accidental to get 30% over res cap.
It's not even that hard to do it and get 80%+ Chaos Resistance on top of it.

I'm actually planning on playing nearly the same concept I played past two leagues.
Use a Shield and Enduring Cry since it's almost impossible to get away from shields at this point because they've nerfed our Defense every league since 3.12.

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Xzorn wrote:

Pretty sure no one does that.

Actually quite a few pathfinders do precisely that. High end players. They res cap with a flask and load their gear almost entirely down with damage.

On other notes, any many people seem to think that Surgeon's Prefix will let them keep the flask uptime:



Surgeon's flasks are selling as quickly as I can make them right now. And legacy Surgeon's flasks, which I've had up for a few years, are flying off the shelves fast.

I'm down to just the sh*tty legacy Surgeon's flasks, with bad rolls or lousy bottle types. People are even asking to buy all Quicksilver, Diamond and Quartz flasks, regardless of mods, for 20c each.

They're rolling them into Surgeon's and Of Adrenaline...