75% less flask charges is insane

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goetzjam wrote:

Its already not optimal to build around for the most part.

Fact still remains some of the changes they've done don't seem to have been thought out well. Similar to how they were going to change frenzy charges back in the day.

For someone thats never gotten high level it seems you know it all about the game.

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

Its already not optimal to build around for the most part.

Fact still remains some of the changes they've done don't seem to have been thought out well. Similar to how they were going to change frenzy charges back in the day.

For someone thats never gotten high level it seems you know it all about the game.

I noticed you still haven't answered my question - are you ignorantly telling people to cheat and use flask macros that you've never tried - and thus know nothing substantive about, which is asinine... or... are you a dirty cheater speaking from experience - who deserves to be banned?

Dodge uncomfortable questions much? It makes an inquisitive person wonder why...

>:)

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sidtherat wrote:

oh cmon.

noone is going to TP to refill their flasks while clearing, nooone. it is such absurd notion i wonder where from does it come?

'people' wont see a f.. difference regarding their offence. it doesnt take a genius to see that 8 projectile PS clears just the f.. same as 10 projectile one. same with 25% vs 35% ele pen (wise oak off/on)

people pretending it makes a difference.. like wtf are you guys playing? map clear is trivial nowadays, on any non-shit skill, my strike budget builds dont need flasks to clear modded red t16 so you should manage with your much more meta builds



defensive.. yeah, so here it hurts. some will have to drop a million or two and spec into some defences? drop some clear speed?

maybe right about time? i bet this is the goal. so people have to actually budget their gear/passives for defensive. right now you actually dont have to - flasks have you covered.

it was difficult to respect POE as a game when a shit build could survive because of 1234, 1234, 1234, 1234 done ad nauseam



there are problems with this change - flasks like Sorrow of the Divine, 'the Perfect Agony flask', and other similar 'weirdos' are DEAD without HEAVY changes. but map clearing? like WTF cares about flasks while clearing?

oh, and quicksilver.. if EVERYONE uses it and keeps it at 100% uptime.. maybe it is time to bake more movement speed into the base stat and drop this flask?

but map clear? TP out to refill flasks? lol

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goetzjam wrote:

As far as using it, I've played with people that have used it...

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

As far as using it, I've played with people that have used it...

So you're ignorant of the topic, and suggesting people do something you have no actual experience with. Something that is a - deservedly - bannable offense. Hell, half of the cheat programs you "recommended" are probably account-stealing key-loggers.

All in all, it seems rather par for the course so far in this discussion. But do go on...

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

So anyways, now that we're done with that little... digression, I for one think these are some great changes that will improve the game in the long run.

I guess people are going to be in the market for some resistance equipment now. No more filling 60% of your resistance holes with a bottle. Also, you'll see some different pantheon picks too I suspect.

Dev's like it when you branch out and explore their games. Time to shake up the ol-meta some.

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TorsteinTheFallen wrote:

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Friagram wrote:

Except I played the game and bought it myself, with my own currency.
Anyway, 1-2mdps is 1-2m dps.
FFS watch the shaper video and just see how long it takes us to kill the trash before facing shaper.

You could get much better dps than I am outputting with a death's opus and a 5 link. A budget bow build will easily net you 10m+ dps. Hell, builds with elemental hit will land you 30-50m with little investment.

Perhaps this is the problem. You kids think the gear makes you good, and it doesn't. Even with my zomgallmirrortiergier, atziri still 1 shots me. You have to dodge the stuff.

I could just normally kill her in 1 barrage before she does a single attack and bypass the entire fight, which is stupid.

The point is you what you've showed doesn't prove anything.
I doubt how much damage you have.
You have casual 130% movement speed without flask.
You have ordinary instant leech.

I've done hundreds of UE fights, enough to know what a torture it is to attempt it with 2 mill dps. It's no fun, especially when you lose the set and UE is one of the best fights.
Sirus 8 will make players rage quit.

I've played Phoenix with Maven Minotaur the other day on a average build with 5L. It was a goddamn disaster. Mino made rocks falling in whole arena, Phoenix under 1/2 life with lots of birds shitting on me. I wouldn't be able to finish it even with 10 portals.
But hey, lots of people here consider that as fun experience...