General Discussion - PoE's item trading system - Forum

" Nebucadneza wrote: trading is fine GGG has to to work on the problems people have not by change how the trading works instead work on the cause of the probelems. with new Atlas i think they did a major increase because you can upgrade whole atlas regions and therefor have at some point only T14+ maps that can drop. so no need to buy maps for me If the new system allows you to sustain high tier maps without trading it might be the first time I play past level 90 or play multiple characters. Really any other item in the game isn't required to be traded frequent enough for the current system to matter, it's all about the required trading frequency in the current system. Not only that any system I've seen here or previously is easily exploitable by mule bots that go to specific locations by the dozens or hundreds for incremental profits. There's videos of them existing already and trade bots also already exist in PoE. I totally understand any hesitation in changing the current system even though it just really sucks on the player side a lot of the time. I think GGG needs to just really put thought into item drop rates that give access to content so the trading system isn't required to access MOST content.	Posted by Sigrosa#7976 on Nov 16, 2019, 7:34:15 PM Quote this Post
" Bleu42 wrote: You evaded answering the question twice, only to finally admit you were lying in your argument, THEN you double down without a single shred of information to back it up. Top it off of course with personal attacks, and you've proven not only do you not understand what you're saying, you're willing to lie to try to make your point. You might want to learn how to read more thoroughly. You clearly missed some important terms. Also, look up the word "lie," because I haven't even once and you continue to accuse me of it. For that matter, your posts show your own lack of integrity and sincerity for this debate, but everyone else with at least double-digit brain cells can see right through you as I do, so I'm not really concerned with your ignorance and wrong opinions. Tired of trolls? Ignore them. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168	Posted by Albinosaurus#7360 on Nov 17, 2019, 3:38:15 AM Quote this Post
" Sigrosa wrote: " Nebucadneza wrote: trading is fine GGG has to to work on the problems people have not by change how the trading works instead work on the cause of the probelems. with new Atlas i think they did a major increase because you can upgrade whole atlas regions and therefor have at some point only T14+ maps that can drop. so no need to buy maps for me If the new system allows you to sustain high tier maps without trading it might be the first time I play past level 90 or play multiple characters. Really any other item in the game isn't required to be traded frequent enough for the current system to matter, it's all about the required trading frequency in the current system. Not only that any system I've seen here or previously is easily exploitable by mule bots that go to specific locations by the dozens or hundreds for incremental profits. There's videos of them existing already and trade bots also already exist in PoE. I totally understand any hesitation in changing the current system even though it just really sucks on the player side a lot of the time. I think GGG needs to just really put thought into item drop rates that give access to content so the trading system isn't required to access MOST content. I don't think there is a problem a problem with high tier maps. The only maps I bought were 10 Elder Burial Chamber during Blight League. Since I play SSF, I don't have any problem to sustain maps. Easy: chisel, vaal, sextant, sacrifice, temple and delve. Last edited by orbebop#5100 on Nov 17, 2019, 7:13:09 AM	Posted by orbebop#5100 on Nov 17, 2019, 6:11:07 AM Quote this Post
Add this to our version of PoE please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZVofRPhyo	Posted by Sigrosa#7976 on Nov 24, 2019, 9:13:18 PM Quote this Post
" Bleu42 wrote: You think botting / flipping / price fixing is bad now? Put in an auction house. And as you say you want, let people buy from those offline. You'll see EVERYTHING be price fixed, and anything of worth be out of the majority of players reach within days if you let everyone instantly buy without limitations. Oh yeah, auction houses are the worst! Did you see what happened when Ebay was introduced? Every item in the world was suddenly being price fixed! It is out of control! The only thing that was worse was when we switched from bartering to using currency. Just like Chris forewarned: all it did was increase the gap between the wealthy and those who never bought or sold anything! Everyone is just a middleman now... no one makes or produces anything... no farmers or miners... just traders! It is the end of the world!	Posted by SudianX#6729 on Nov 24, 2019, 10:06:06 PM Quote this Post
A few comments since I've found this video of PoE WITH an implemented trade system and nobody seemingly was aware or mentioned it before in this post. This system only seems to work well for broadly classified items such as maps so acquiring specific gear would still required involved searching probably through different means. I don't see how this is any more exploitable than the current system, it simply allows accessibility through the game client. But most importantly, why is this improved feature only in the chinese client? Where exactly does features implementation start and stop between the client versions? I really feel this should be clearer and more people should be aware of it.	Posted by Sigrosa#7976 on Nov 24, 2019, 10:25:38 PM Quote this Post
" SudianX wrote: " Bleu42 wrote: You think botting / flipping / price fixing is bad now? Put in an auction house. And as you say you want, let people buy from those offline. You'll see EVERYTHING be price fixed, and anything of worth be out of the majority of players reach within days if you let everyone instantly buy without limitations. Oh yeah, auction houses are the worst! Did you see what happened when Ebay was introduced? Every item in the world was suddenly being price fixed! It is out of control! The only thing that was worse was when we switched from bartering to using currency. Just like Chris forewarned: all it did was increase the gap between the wealthy and those who never bought or sold anything! Everyone is just a middleman now... no one makes or produces anything... no farmers or miners... just traders! It is the end of the world! This... is a troll right? You're not ACTUALLY serious in any of these statements...right? Jesus lmao	Posted by Bleu42#4018 on Nov 24, 2019, 10:50:01 PM Quote this Post
I find buying stuff isn't too bad but selling is a pretty big pain. Outside of somewhat valuable items I usually don't bother and even than I'll undercut pretty heavily just to get it over with. My issue is it breaks the flow of the game too much and typically at inconvenient times as well. If it were made more convenient I'd probably engage in it more but it's a minor enough part of the game that I'm not too worried about it. It's definitely not a pleasant experience though.	Posted by Seratin#4272 on Nov 25, 2019, 2:03:24 AM Quote this Post
I think they could make an experimental "Trade" league with auction house but the items you want to list have to be put in your premium stash with fixed price with "auction house" tag and you pay 50% of the requested price for item listing upfront, no matter if the item will be sold or not. My builds: 3.8 75/75 block 7.5k HP Zombie/Skeleton build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2650898 Last edited by zVisior#3583 on Nov 25, 2019, 6:16:44 AM	Posted by zVisior#3583 on Nov 25, 2019, 6:15:45 AM Quote this Post
" Sigrosa wrote: Add this to our version of PoE please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZVofRPhyo	Posted by fuxxnuts2#3126 on Nov 25, 2019, 6:27:53 AM Quote this Post