PoE's item trading system

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Bleu42 wrote:

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Albinosaurus wrote:

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Bleu42 wrote:

You think botting / flipping / price fixing is bad now? Put in an auction house. And as you say you want, let people buy from those offline.

You'll see EVERYTHING be price fixed, and anything of worth be out of the majority of players reach within days if you let everyone instantly buy without limitations.

The only thing keeping events like this at bay is the fact that it takes times to whisper a person, get an invite, go to the hideout and trade, and that's if they're online.

You also said "Auction houses can and have worked perfectly fine in other games." Name me an ARPG that has an AH that's proven to have worked fine. And lastly, HELL ya D3's AH can and will be used as an example of how it damages a game. They literally removed it because players were spending more time on the AH then actually playing the game.

Wrong on basically every point, but thanks for playing.

So throw down some actual counter arguments?

Thanks for playing.

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MoLoK13 wrote:

Trade system is fine, it's easy to get what you need to complete the game - which is very little.

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Sigrosa wrote:

Are you happy

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cetvxs wrote:

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Sigrosa wrote:

Are you happy

No.

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Sigrosa wrote:

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cetvxs wrote:

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Sigrosa wrote:

Are you happy

No.

I'm sorry to hear that.

You know I just made the thread to see other people's opinions and have a discussion? But if you don't want to participate, that is okay. :)

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cetvxs wrote:

You'll have to pardon me as I'm piss drunk. You made a good point in that the trade system is fatiguing.

At a certain point, I just vendor most items that are worth 50c or less since I believe it's no longer worth my time.

Sitting around trying to sell 5000 fusings is insanely boring. I'm sure many just don't bother selling trivial items.

It's for these reasons that I'm under the belief that trade bots and farm bots are NECESSARY for the game economy. If it weren't for those trusty bots, I'd never have enough chisels, sextants, and vaals for the maps I run rapidly.

The fact that trade bots seem necessary for a healthy game economy implies that the system is inherently flawed and needs a massive overhaul.

I reinforce that statement from the fact that GGG seems to be rather lazy when it comes to bot banning. I've seen the same bot selling a particular currency since the start of the league, never banned and still running strong.

This tells me that GGG is also aware that they need those bots in order to sustain game economy - but they would, of course, never admit that. Instead, they can keep farm/trade bots alive, lie to the public about how they're enforcing their rules, then insist that their trading system is perfectly fine the way it is. It makes it a lot easier for them.

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DudeTheLegend wrote:

They need to add a folder option, better stash browsing overview, faster precise item finding without having to flip through tabs. That's literally one of the worst aspects of poe atm. Wasting so much time sorting tons of junk.

Also add a quick vendor mechanic in there so we don't need to walk to vendors for that. And after you unlock a npc that sells certain gems and orbs, those should be buyable too directly from the stash. It's just stupid porting around acts and finding the npc that sells x-y-z since we already have access to them.