Chris says 4.0 will take on Diablo 4

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wierdzodi wrote:
As for PoE 4.0 vs D4, well Diablo 4 is likely to be at least 2-3 years away. A Blizzcon reveal could happen this year but an actual playable product won't be until earliest late 2021. Path of exile could probably find the time for a 5.0 update before D4 is a living reality for the consumers(Unless Chris has some inside info, about D4 becoming relevant soon in time).

Will Path of exile take on D4? Well if D4 has an amazing new engine/gfx and ditched the cartoon/wow influence(according to the article, '' dark D2-like in a modern package '') it would draw the attention of the nostalgic oldtimer for sure, perhaps on that qualification alone start dominating if the rest of the game just is decent enough. But both games could still coexist.

More importantly the gameplay of D4. We don't know anything so it's pure speculation at this point, however i dobut they're gonna do the ''set itemization'' given how many balance issues they had with it, complains etc. People expecting a D3 in new cloths might be in for a surprise imo, i honestly believe they're going all in ''full revenge'' so GGG is wise to prepare accordingly. I suppose in the end it depends on the kind of devs they hired for the job, another Jay Wilson type or a knowledgeable dev with previous arpg experience?

One thing for sure is that blizz gonna try to compete on a stay relevant and monetize the hell out of it with updates, the only reason D3 didn't and bend the knee is because the game has been abandoned, thus not prioritized.

Another dangerous thing thay many overlook is if Blizz would deliver the game with an addictive and working PvP mode, this alone could harm Path of exile quite a bit as many probably have been thirsty for PvP in an arpg environment since the glourious D2 bnet days. I highly doubt PKing is coming back in these casual times but some kind of arena or larger environment mode with perhaps their own unique rewards and itemization balancing.


Tbh I wouldnt be surprised if they full on titled the game Revenge.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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DarthSki44 wrote:
Tbh I wouldnt be surprised if they full on titled the game Revenge.

That'd be funny but i doubt actiblizz is ever going to admit the need for it, not even in a subtle way.
Um, did you play D3? It was the biggest failure in terms of how captivating/customizing D2 was.

D3 was the biggest disappointment of my video game career (now 20 years strong).

If D4 has anything from D3 except a few QoL features I'll be passing on it.
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DrB00M wrote:
Um, did you play D3? It was the biggest failure in terms of how captivating/customizing D2 was.

D3 was the biggest disappointment of my video game career (now 20 years strong).

If D4 has anything from D3 except a few QoL features I'll be passing on it.


I get you didnt like it, but it wasn't a failure.

It's in the top 10 of the best selling games ever.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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DrB00M wrote:
Um, did you play D3? It was the biggest failure in terms of how captivating/customizing D2 was.

D3 was the biggest disappointment of my video game career (now 20 years strong).

If D4 has anything from D3 except a few QoL features I'll be passing on it.


Have you played it recently? They basically replaced that entire dev team, with people who actually knew the genre. It was bad when it came out, but now it's pretty good. The current team did a great job with a giant steaming turd as a base.
If they nail it with good gfx, d2 like atmosphere, actual environment, good itemization with runewords&stuff and trading; there is no way this old, one-click brainless farm game would compete with that.
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DarthSki44 wrote:
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DrB00M wrote:
Um, did you play D3? It was the biggest failure in terms of how captivating/customizing D2 was.

D3 was the biggest disappointment of my video game career (now 20 years strong).

If D4 has anything from D3 except a few QoL features I'll be passing on it.


I get you didnt like it, but it wasn't a failure.

It's in the top 10 of the best selling games ever.


Sales is the publishers metric, reception is the consumers, don't mix the two up.

You also can't ignore that at the time of release diablo 3 was in a perfect storm - huge brand value associated with blizzard, the leading arpg by far in D2 and a substantial wait period to let hype build to a ridiculous level.

Diablo 3 would have sold fantastically whether it was the worst video game ever or the best, but for many users it was a failure.
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j33bus wrote:
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DrB00M wrote:
Um, did you play D3? It was the biggest failure in terms of how captivating/customizing D2 was.

D3 was the biggest disappointment of my video game career (now 20 years strong).

If D4 has anything from D3 except a few QoL features I'll be passing on it.


Have you played it recently? They basically replaced that entire dev team, with people who actually knew the genre. It was bad when it came out, but now it's pretty good. The current team did a great job with a giant steaming turd as a base.


They "fixed it" with Reaper of Souls and then shit all over it again by going full retard with sets followed by years of power creep that was as ludicrous as it was unimaginative (was 100%, now it's 10,000%!).

People praising number bloat as good design and claiming D3 grifts are some sort of MLG ARPG experience...ridiculous.
D1 = Terminator
D2 = Terminator 2
D3 = Terminator 3

T3 did well because T1&2 were massive hits, even though T3 sucked, much like D3.
If you guys haven't tried out diabo 2 with the median xl mod you should. I feel like it is what d3 should have been. It is new skills, crafting, completely new items, runewords and damn it is pretty cool. It is also free if you have diablo 2 lord of destruction already.

Anyways, if diablo 4 can be like median xl but with great graphics and story, it will wreck poe. I don't have high hopes for d4 though. They are retarded as shown with d3.

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