Post your reason why you hate doing labs.
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I like Labyrinth its a different feel than just point and clicking through all the content the game has to offer.
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YoursTruly, I'll try and make it clear to you since obviously you're in some sort of emotional upheaval that doesn't allow you to see clearly.
Your and adghar's exchange. And yes, I concede that was on page 3 and I was obviously wrong saying it was on page 4. " Which I quoted and added: " Unraveling bit by bit, so as to avoid misunderstandings and whatnots: " This is directed at adghar, whom I quoted, which you can see because the outer frame of the quote is around adghar's post, not around yours. You're, so to speak, collateral damage (since you felt attacked even though you were not). So what I did here was correcting adghar that this thread is NOT about opinions on the Labyrinth, but reasons why people hate it. " I am, again, directly addressing adghar. Telling him that it is fine not to hate the Labyrinth. After all we're all entitled to our own opinions. " Again talking to adghar. I cannot forbid him to come here and post irrelevant stuff, as you would know, of course, since these are not my forums and I am not a moderator. " I'm still talking to adghar here, telling him, although possibly a bit more politely than you would have done, that he (that is not you, YoursTruly) was indeed out of line. Nowhere did I talk to you or even imply that what you said was wrong... quite the opposite. Yet you failed to understand this and construed it as an attack against you. I could of course have said "YoursTruly86 is right". But as you will probably know, that would have been logically fallacious; it would either be a Just Because Fallacy (YoursTruly86 is right, because I said so) or Appeal to Authority (YoursTruly86 said it is so, so it must be so). And we surely don't want any more of those fallacies, now, do we? ------------------------------------------------------------ " This is another logical fallacy, called Whataboutism and is closely related to the Tu Quoque Fallacy. The fact that I made a mistake in an entirely different conversation does not mean that you (=YoursTruly86) cannot make a mistake as well, in this case completely misunderstanding what I said. In the light of which your saying " is rather ironic. I dunno, though, whether "hate" is the correct word here. I for one don't hate you. " What are you on about? I conceded in that thread that I was wrong. " And I said I was trying to make a joke (NOT tell a joke, although I know one or two rather good ones). You will have to accept that. This is not even a Just Because Fallacy (before you mention that one again) because I am in fact the ultimate authority on that matter, since I wrote that post and I know what my intention was. " What? You want me to admit it again? Fine, I tried to make a joke with your post and turns out the joke's on me. " You don't say! Bird lover of Wraeclast Las estrellas te iluminan - Hoy te sirven de guía Te sientes tan fuerte que piensas - que nadie te puede tocar Last edited by Mikrotherion#4706 on Jun 17, 2017, 3:30:11 PM
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There's two reasons that I dislike the Labyrinth, though it is more that I dislike these things specifically, and not that I overall dislike the Labyrinth, as I actually find it interesting.
What bothers me is that certain builds are far better at it because they're either super fast and mobile, or because they can negate much of the threat posed by the traps. You really see this in some of the particularly spectacular hellmurder gauntlets where you would be in legitimate danger trying to get through it without extreme speed, extreme regen, or both. But that's not a huge issue to me, oh no. What I find absolutely, positively, rage inducingly INTOLERABLE is the enchantment system. It is complete and utter GARBAGE and will only get worse as more skills are added to the game. The more More you have, the less Less matters
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Oh good, we're still discussing events of page 3! I won't feel like a necro or slowpoke.
" You should never feel like your opinions are unappreciated by devs. As long as you don't repeat the same things over and over with no response, your input is always welcome, even if it doesn't seem that way from forumer response. Different people are going to have different opinions and they're going to voice those opinions because that's how forums work. However, in this case, you're actually in good company. There is a thread in Feedback and Suggestions chock full of alternatives for Ascendancy Points and another thread consolidating general negative opinions about the Labyrinth. Suggestions for improvement are always looked upon the most favourably, too. Rather than general complaints, you actually provide possible solutions, which can then be critiqued with some objectivity. It helps prevent arguments from devolving into you're wrong because I don't like it vs you're wrong because I like it. Need game info? Check out the Wiki at: https://www.poewiki.net/
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"Here's mine: If you aren't a lab runner who does it under 5 minutes with a specific build, it takes you anywhere from 10-25 minutes per run. To kill all the monsters, tank Izaro, navigate mazes for what seems to be like an hour, then only to die in a trap that locks you in place, kill yourself on a buzzsaw that you thought you could outrun or lag out on lava grates... In other words, get killed by the area itself, something that you aren't getting enough preparation for (if you don't level many characters per league and prefer mapping) is annoying as hell. Every time I have to do a lab, it's a coinflip for me if I make it or not, since I don't play high regen or armour characters. My build guides:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2180198 Taking a break from PoE, catch me up in Warframe: https://www.warframe.com/signup?referrerId=5b625847f2f2eb0ea0750322 Use above link for free booster when you sign up! :) |
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I hate doing lab because more than once I have died to last phase Izaro en he died 1 second later. More than once I have crashed or DC on the last trial. It's just a pain to run overall.
Balance is an illusion, exile.
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Why do I hate doing labs.
Traps are retarded, they are very dangerous and can be very hard to avoid depending on your reflexes. Besides I do not find a mechanic fun when it works out of cluttering the whole screen with BS to make you need really goo reflexes and not miss anything to avoid it. Izaro is completly unbalanced. If you have a character capable of dealing with high phy damage then you are ok, otherwise you get 1/2shot. Lab takes a very long time to run through and if you die you have to start again. Some builds are absolute trash for Lab even if they are good at many other things, they are just not Lab viable. And above all however with everything above into consideration. Lab is mandatory for ascendencies! If it wasn't manadatory the sure, have a BS type of content like atziri, whoever likes to do it does it, who doesn't wont and items they need from there they just buy! Sadly it's not the case. "The heavens burned
The stars cried out And under the ashes of infinity Hope, scarred and bleeding breathed it's last." |
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Main issue: Too huge rng on lab enchants. At least let us select between melee skills, spell cast skill, totem/trap/mine skills and curses/auras/remaining skills upon clicking the enchant button.
Second issue: Some layouts are far too long with multiple golden doors and long trap sections. Those layouts are too vurneable to disconnects. At least refund the stone when you leave lab without dying before last izaro. I feel the only reason people run lab outside of the sheer need to to get the ascension points is because the end chests can be super rewarding and a selected few uses it to make money by randomly enchant helmets that are used for a high variety of builds thus reducing the rng needed (the hubris circlet enchant sellers). All above can be changed without lowering the difficulty of the encounters notably. |
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Everything been covered but for me
1. little to no exp and its even worse than maps - like no challenge. 2. Cant pause. I'm always pausing with portals. I have 2 months old and 18 month old and interruptions all the time. No portals means no pause. 3. DC/lag can waste 10-15 minutes of your time. 4. enchant rewards suck odds terrible even for gloves let alone helm. Not worth my time. I only do lab 4x per toon period. Place sucks. Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Jun 17, 2017, 6:13:38 PM
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Multiple reasons. #1 is the gold door/key thing. When I come to one, I log out and find something more fun to do like dishes, clean the cat box, etc.
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