Can somebody make a transcript of Chris Interview? Cant Stand ZiggyD

I used to pirate way back to test games to see if they worth buying. I havent done that in well over 8 years now. Why ? Not even worth the time and bandwidth with how much trash is being sold in the game market. Also worth noting, id never play more than 30 minutes to an hour to test them.

Z: you're going to get here I'm here again Chris welcome thank you very much for taking some more time to talk to me

C: you're open

Z: I want to talk about this whole 10 access them and get them devices designed divine divine design insight into it i'm just gonna roll with that i'm looking online about your fingers community go through there be divine design in fights with tris will hit fire the whole 10 act system before this three-point there are announcement you're talking about identifying an issue in the action RPG genre and i addressing that how do you feel what is that issue firstly and how you feel like the taxes than interesting.

C: and traditionally action RPGs like being able to 12 part of exile for example have required that you play through the game several times before you reach whatever the endgame is essentially a tribe now and yeah it's kind of a new game+ and you gain + + systems for the use of other types of games and so for a very long time player happy to have additional content to play right like a platicar finished the end of normal then there will be less with a game that if there was the ability to Plato and see how your character fares against super-hard versions of sense for those from the beach and there's the problem haha you're playing through stuff that's kind of designed to be early in the game yeah and the thing where people say i want cruel to be incredibly hard when you start off because you know he had difficulty jump all the way I of Monsters is just laughably cheap right like it's designed so that the tenant moves around education issues during the zombie kind of wanders around and you don't hate you because he's a zombie you know it is designed to be the beginning of the game not halfway through the game and so the problem that people found was the kind of this isn't really that fun to replace certain parts of that you know the course would be awesome bit by the dried lake with totally happy to get that right leg again it is more farming but a lot of the game really needed to be different if you're playing it a second time and in addition from a retention point of view we know that we get players into the Atlas we own a player soul right like that there are there is a bit incomplete eyes to the company after that point it was thought about and for the existing playthrough and the beginning we have no retention issues if you're playing to the storyline the story is compelling and some people don't finish the game for whatever reason it's certainly not the same as when they're playing through the second of the difficulties which were just to repeat in fact there's a point on the graph where you finish the first playthrough and you get to the second nice say what I have to do this again and some percentage of people leave now despite this the game growing popularity and was very successful and that's all well and good but it was certainly a leak you know it's a hole that we have to fix and different games over prices that's different way that you know the other three has adventure mode and they do not have multiple to fuji level that you play through the ever dynamic difficulty system where you can kind of tailor it to your character and have some scaling and so on we didn't want to do that and so we have done this accepts in this release which increase the games site for ten acts before the end game and this is the thing we were referring to a while ago mr. the problem with the a traditional action-rpg trope so we wanted to address and the example we gave her the time was like the flask system where the amplitude has potions that you back from the sharpness but family having to buy them in their kind of modulus and similar and so we want a flask three fellers other games have done different things like stacking potions or red balls you have to run over on the ground or region and so on and so all the games handle it in different ways and this is our way to have a 10x player with a second 5x are entirely fanservice when you revisit reminiscent stuff from the past and find out what happened to us

Z: do you think that particular decision will help with bio retention that you're returning but that it's a bit different around

C: well on one hand it doesn't feel the same time playthrough as you place for yourself and we pretty much the moment is most similar as I guess you're in like the mud flaps which is a visually similar Zone the two times apart from the new architecture but the monsters are different and pretty much everything else after that point has a very different tone to it right there but forgot handling aspects of this and the fact that you're going completely different path you're constantly and this playthrough finding kind of block areas where i could go through the floorboard I have to do now and finding other ways around but in addition there's the fanservice think way if you enjoyed the story or even just the existence of the first half of the game then the second half kind of answers all the questions where is mr. what does that help people save her oh she's looking for the survey class that's not going to go well for her when I see her again you know and businesses throughout the action various different places and the idea of you know chevron who created bruises saying all you you made my go to pieces so i'm going to put it back together we're going to get you at the top of my Tower and this kind of stuff when you get to kind of hear about things in the first place to an experienced them in this and the lure of the uniques and so on it plays into you know situations that you get to encounter and so we feel that it is much more than just six new acts from the point of view of us you actually likes all things that you said about in the past

Z: so the loan good display that we're going to add six sacks to bring up to 10 accident all this problem with the action RPG genre best and you actually manage that

C: this is true our company's core DNA is about clever use of content right and action RPGs right but we basically when we sat down at the beginning there were three of us and we said the only way that we're going to make this using up your meager life savings is to find clever ways to reuse condoms your the level generations that has to be extreme that I don't have to be incredibly deep there has to be a lot of stuff without having to actually just mass make an entirely large-scale game yeah now since that point we have some tens of millions of dollars into mass large-scale game so there is a lot of content there but the immense amount of ways that your visitors like you know every time that is used several different times throughout the game and in this map versions of it as arenas and you know that the Leo fight you know sorry they are freedom fighters and you know at certain times and so on there's so much we use of stuff and this you know the league's for example we make a league and then we get to use it as potentially erase we get to use animals and sections of math mods and legacy League all sorts of things and so when making these six acts were already making these 5x I should say connect five isn't having your content so the additional 5x here are very clever remix of the existing stuff that we have where in some cases things that we created for atlas of worlds was also intended to be used here so we get the ability to take a twist on Alice map the beacon for example is an idea is an example that and so there are places where we get a double-dip various content with myself elsewhere only avenues and interesting we're here but the men day for the team is basically being do this in the most cost-effective way because if we apply everything we've learned over the last decade and is entirely possible frustrated 5x and the time they would normally takes me one or two and then over the last couple of years and parallel we've been working on this and it's all coming together now

Z: so how do you ensure then that this didn't just become what people fear that like reskin of the previous acts and that actually felt significant graduate while taking advantage of that my skill of reusing who

C: when we were initially planning this I suspect we wanted it to be more of an additional reskin right the initial scope is the minimum amount required to make it an interesting place with the areas again and the team of delivered to so much more than that so that it worries me like playing through i am amazed on a daily basis and the subtlety of the stuff and how cool it is like it go into acts 2 and then back out again because of the fact that they worked out the road is open all the stuff yeah and that only gets more crazy as we get further down this so the team has gone above and beyond the initial mandate right like we said okay no new monsters just ate the existing want to use a different ways a few reasons and they may be monsters right like this there's so much cool stuff for the teams put together for us to make sure that it doesn't feel repetitive and that's kind of feeling of fanservice enjoy as you find out of all these cool things and I got to experience that myself because I've been working internally on spearheading gum the China projects and working on overseeing business stuff and keeping a close eye on the itemization path of exile but not the creation of Acts i actually got to kind of save myself from having seen x 5 through 10 and only get to check them out recently when they were in a really good state label the same feeling that you did a few days ago and the community does

Z: sweet this is awesome so x5 nothing designed with this jewel part system in mind because all the other ones you kind of adapted to you come back to and here's the story lines but x5 has been made at the same time was yes like always the intention that you have two parts back 54

C: there is a specific plot reason why you have to go better a classroom while you're doing all of the godslayer why you're here working towards the point where you get to return to arias and axten and finalize the fall of us you know there's there's there's lots of there but I don't want to spoil and so when the team in designing at five they're completely aware of the fact that there's also the six through ten arc and it means we get to save some of the most awesome impressive stuff for active

Z: okay so some of the stuff that you might have just put in at five and kind of condensed it down you've been able to spread out and bring out into the second version

C: absolutely i'm planning out from the start was a lot better than finishing at five and anything with to another five and having to go and read Connor things already finished and release right you know if we if we take the Beast right for and put it at the end of activity hey guys you've already killed the baseball moving a basic facts that will be a problem so we're not doing that with we're doing new content

Z: let's sort of like I know you don't spoil everything but what sort of story complaints expect to get out of this whole tax system

C: there's an overarching story arc here that's what the players are gradually beginning to put together and I say that by reading part of different peoples comments and assuming there's one out there was just reading the same part than those the entire story most of the information is there and you'll notice that over the last few weeks have been a lot of unique spiraled into the game that deal with God's right there are items themed around the various gods like took a hammer and a breath and so on and if you're careful and read a lot of flavor text and listen to a lot of stories stones and stuff you can put together quite a lot of the story and then the subtle Clues right there's a there's a symbol is being used extensively throughout the game as i've recently which ties a lot of the stuff together and yeah it's it's pretty easy for people to gradually put it together we expect by the time they play it don't have hopes that the hopes what they're going to see and hopefully they'll be pleased with that

Z: of the stuff thank you very much

C: welcome