Can somebody make a transcript of Chris Interview? Cant Stand ZiggyD

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Last edited by TheExile777 on Feb 24, 2017, 4:36:57 AM
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Sexcalibure wrote:


Its like if you order a Pizza, ask for an Alldressed but ask no Mushrooms cuz you dont like mushrooms and the waiter is like "OMG you hate mushrooms! How why?" for hours. Meanwhile i still dont have my pizza :(


no... its more like you went to Burger King, and demanded to order a pizza, and when they asked "why dont you go to pizza hutt" you replied because you can't stand the staff there, then refused to leave BK until they served you a pizza.

(i'm assuming BK dont serve pizza's where you live in this example, if you live in the US i guess all bets are off)
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Bnethor wrote:
To be honest I've never understood people who even watch streamers.. how boring can your life be if you'd rather be a sheep and watch someone else doing something instead of doing it yourself?


Have you ever watched a televised sports game? Or been at the stadium?

Better yet, have you ever watched porn?

Welcome to the herd! :)

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鬼殺し wrote:
The bottom line is I bet ZiggyD doesn't even know about this thread and even if he did he'd give pretty much zero fucks.

I'm pretty sure he got lots of views thanks to this thread!
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ivkoto77777 wrote:
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Bnethor wrote:
To be honest I've never understood people who even watch streamers.. how boring can your life be if you'd rather be a sheep and watch someone else doing something instead of doing it yourself?


Have you ever watched a televised sports game? Or been at the stadium?

Better yet, have you ever watched porn?

Welcome to the herd! :)



Completely 2 different things

To play sports or do sex you need other people, to organize your time with them and for sports you even need a special location. And I'm not even talking stuff like comparable abilities and physical potency

What do you need to play video games? A computer
What do you need to watch streamers? A computer
ZiggyD is the Labyrinth of streamers, some like it, some dont, but GGG will make sure to push it down ur throat to make you like it
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Sexcalibure wrote:
Dont want to give him views and pretty much all information that GGG gives us is gated behind Giving this streamer that i find boring and unentertaining more views

this would be much appreciated, from the comments i saw, this looks promissing, im looking forward to learn more

I dont hate the information we get, im pretty thankful to GGG but, having it delivered by who you know and him being pushed down our throat by GGG feels like Drinking your favorite flavour of KoolAid from a toilet


don't watch him then, and read it yourself
Can't say i can't stand him - that being said,i do not trust him anymore ever since he started posting videos with lead developer e.t.c. at that point your credibility goes straight out the window as there is no way you can remain unbiased.

Not to mention that it feeds the whole streamer thing to a point where a lot of players base their opinions on what a streamer has said,instead of what they have found out them selves. I mean for god's sake,a relic of bygone era like kripp is still being held on a pedestal even tho he is about as relevant as a used condom.

And yeah,threads like these feed both the trolls and the streamers.
No rest for the wicked.
Eh...

I get what the OP is saying, to a degree. Its a wierd situation... GGG wants to throw info at us, but sends it flowing through ziggy, who is not employed by GGG last time I checked(and turned down a job so that he can be flexible in what he does). Yet, just by the very nature, its almost as if Ziggy is indeed employed by GGG. They are, again (and by again, I mean they have POE trade for free too), getting a service for free by streaming it through Ziggy and have him as some sort of unofficial community manager.

They want to have their cake and eat it too. Can't say I blame them. But it can be...eh, annoying?...to see them skimp out on having an actual in-house built GGG developed trading website/system/etc...and then have them skimp out on a quasi unoffocial community manager/liason in Ziggy without actually paying him (and thus allowing him to maintain his creative freedom). I get it, I understand it, Im almost indfferent to it. But I do understand what the OP is getting at.

I personally have nothing against Ziggy, and I think he puts out some great content. I do wish that he would stick to being a streamer, youtube content guy, etc...and not under the proverbial thumb of GGG. I can see, at some point, Ziggy possibly altering content(interviews, etc) to some degree to preserve the image of GGG simply because he is their go-to guy for interviews and announcements. If he had zero attachments to them, he is totally free to do and say what he wants without any unofficial obligations to maintain peaceful relations with them. Example...I am curious when was the last time Ziggy had an ill word about POE, development direction, GGG, etc since becoming the unofficial community liason guy? I.E. are we getting Ziggy's actual and truthful opinion? Or is it filtered through his relationship with GGG?

With that said, good job Ziggy...just don't drink too much of the kool-aid and I hope you don't find yourself under GGG thumb.
Last edited by cesmode on Feb 24, 2017, 11:04:14 AM
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Sexcalibure wrote:
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ivkoto77777 wrote:
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Bnethor wrote:
To be honest I've never understood people who even watch streamers.. how boring can your life be if you'd rather be a sheep and watch someone else doing something instead of doing it yourself?


Have you ever watched a televised sports game? Or been at the stadium?

Better yet, have you ever watched porn?

Welcome to the herd! :)



Completely 2 different things

To play sports or do sex you need other people, to organize your time with them and for sports you even need a special location. And I'm not even talking stuff like comparable abilities and physical potency

What do you need to play video games? A computer
What do you need to watch streamers? A computer


You don't need the developers to have created the game world?
You don't need the server infrastructure as well as an internet connection for the game and twitch to exist?
You don't ever trade or group up in PoE?

They are completely different as long as you wish to make them out to be. Otherwise they are the same thing :)
Last edited by ivkoto77777 on Feb 25, 2017, 3:25:13 AM
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cesmode wrote:
Eh...

I get what the OP is saying, to a degree. Its a wierd situation... GGG wants to throw info at us, but sends it flowing through ziggy, who is not employed by GGG last time I checked(and turned down a job so that he can be flexible in what he does). Yet, just by the very nature, its almost as if Ziggy is indeed employed by GGG. They are, again (and by again, I mean they have POE trade for free too), getting a service for free by streaming it through Ziggy and have him as some sort of unofficial community manager.

They want to have their cake and eat it too. Can't say I blame them. But it can be...eh, annoying?...to see them skimp out on having an actual in-house built GGG developed trading website/system/etc...and then have them skimp out on a quasi unoffocial community manager/liason in Ziggy without actually paying him (and thus allowing him to maintain his creative freedom). I get it, I understand it, Im almost indfferent to it. But I do understand what the OP is getting at.

I personally have nothing against Ziggy, and I think he puts out some great content. I do wish that he would stick to being a streamer, youtube content guy, etc...and not under the proverbial thumb of GGG. I can see, at some point, Ziggy possibly altering content(interviews, etc) to some degree to preserve the image of GGG simply because he is their go-to guy for interviews and announcements. If he had zero attachments to them, he is totally free to do and say what he wants without any unofficial obligations to maintain peaceful relations with them. Example...I am curious when was the last time Ziggy had an ill word about POE, development direction, GGG, etc since becoming the unofficial community liason guy? I.E. are we getting Ziggy's actual and truthful opinion? Or is it filtered through his relationship with GGG?

With that said, good job Ziggy...just don't drink too much of the kool-aid and I hope you don't find yourself under GGG thumb.

GGG have their own community managers and PR system. Point is Ziggy is detached from the GGG engine and can ask community-driven questions and push critiques that won't arise internally. Just because he doesn't whinge endlessly about whatever it is evryone is whinging about atm doesn't mean he is compromised in what he presents. THEY DON'T PAY HIM. Sure he isn't going to unnecessarily burn all his bridges for the sake of publicity and being edgy but if GGG took a big dump on poe to cash out or whatever you can be sure he wouldn't accept it joyfully like a warm turd to the face and convince his viewers it was in their best interest while he and Chris skipped off hand in hand on their way to their evil lair on volcano island.

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