GGGs reasoning on not making a SFL?

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Temper wrote:

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mushioov wrote:

It's only a good thing that we get rid of the crybaby casuals. This game is about competition, teamwork and occasional luck. That's why it's so addicting, even though I've had a few month break now, but my fingers are itching already to get back on.

SFL will never happen and that's the best decision GGG can stick for. You casuals can cry, whine and whatever but it still won't happen :)
Hey look, your D3 expansion that was supposed to "blow PoE out of water" was just as crap, if not even worse, as we told it would be. So go play that now. Let the real hardcore ARPG gamers enjoy PoE.

Yes it would be good to get rid of the casual crybabys,but how do you stop players from trading besides a SFL. =P

The *real hardcore* ARPG gamers would need POE to actually be a *hardcore* ARPG before they could truly enjoy it as a *hardcore* ARPG.

=P

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mushioov wrote:

It's the mentality that counts, not hours used.

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mushioov wrote:

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Temper wrote:

The *real hardcore* ARPG gamers would need POE to actually be a *hardcore* ARPG before they could truly enjoy it as a *hardcore* ARPG.

=P

It is quite "hardcore" and "oldschool", but not if they start changing the fundamentals.
I've always said that it's a slippery slope. Once you give anything to the whinercrowd, they start demanding more and more and more... It is a fact that they will never be happy with what they got. That's why nothing should be given. GGG need to just follow their own vision and that's it.

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mushioov wrote:

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Temper wrote:

The *real hardcore* ARPG gamers would need POE to actually be a *hardcore* ARPG before they could truly enjoy it as a *hardcore* ARPG.

=P

It is quite "hardcore" and "oldschool", but not if they start changing the fundamentals.
I've always said that it's a slippery slope. Once you give anything to the whinercrowd, they start demanding more and more and more... It is a fact that they will never be happy with what they got. That's why nothing should be given. GGG need to just follow their own vision and that's it.

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iamstryker wrote:

I guess I should just "be happy" with corrupted zones not being in maps. Screw trying to make the game better and more fun for the playerbase.

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mushioov wrote:

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Temper wrote:

The *real hardcore* ARPG gamers would need POE to actually be a *hardcore* ARPG before they could truly enjoy it as a *hardcore* ARPG.

=P

It is quite "hardcore" and "oldschool", but not if they start changing the fundamentals.
I've always said that it's a slippery slope. Once you give anything to the whinercrowd, they start demanding more and more and more... It is a fact that they will never be happy with what they got. That's why nothing should be given. GGG need to just follow their own vision and that's it.

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Worldbreaker wrote:

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Temper wrote:

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mushioov wrote:

It's only a good thing that we get rid of the crybaby casuals. This game is about competition, teamwork and occasional luck. That's why it's so addicting, even though I've had a few month break now, but my fingers are itching already to get back on.

SFL will never happen and that's the best decision GGG can stick for. You casuals can cry, whine and whatever but it still won't happen :)
Hey look, your D3 expansion that was supposed to "blow PoE out of water" was just as crap, if not even worse, as we told it would be. So go play that now. Let the real hardcore ARPG gamers enjoy PoE.

Yes it would be good to get rid of the casual crybabys,but how do you stop players from trading besides a SFL. =P

The *real hardcore* ARPG gamers would need POE to actually be a *hardcore* ARPG before they could truly enjoy it as a *hardcore* ARPG.

=P

The grind is hardcore. In a game revolving around "grinding gear" I say that foots the bill. The game itself is not hard, abusing trade isn't hardcore, 1 shot mechanics aren't hardcore, desync isn't hardcore, but the MAIN PURPOSE of the game is.

Either way, SFL would still be a hardcore grind to find your own stuff or craft your own stuff and removing trade mechanic abuse.

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Worldbreaker wrote:

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Temper wrote:

The grind is hardcore. In a game revolving around "grinding gear" I say that foots the bill. The game itself is not hard, abusing trade isn't hardcore, 1 shot mechanics aren't hardcore, desync isn't hardcore, but the MAIN PURPOSE of the game is.

Either way, SFL would still be a hardcore grind to find your own stuff or craft your own stuff and removing trade mechanic abuse.

Grinding trivial content to trade up for progression is hardcore ?

Hardcore in gaming terms has changed much from the past.I guess sadly I no longer fit the description or ideology of *hardcore* in this day and age.Oh well to bad.

=)

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Worldbreaker wrote:

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Worldbreaker wrote:

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Temper wrote:

The grind is hardcore. In a game revolving around "grinding gear" I say that foots the bill. The game itself is not hard, abusing trade isn't hardcore, 1 shot mechanics aren't hardcore, desync isn't hardcore, but the MAIN PURPOSE of the game is.

Either way, SFL would still be a hardcore grind to find your own stuff or craft your own stuff and removing trade mechanic abuse.

Grinding trivial content to trade up for progression is hardcore ?

Hardcore in gaming terms has changed much from the past.I guess sadly I no longer fit the description or ideology of *hardcore* in this day and age.Oh well to bad.

=)

I said that trading wasn't hardcore, but the continuous (endless) grind is.

Your perception of hardcore isn't wrong/right it is an opinion.

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Temper wrote:

Ya you're right,it's just differing ideology of the term.

I don't find time to be hardcore,but find what's done in that time to be key.Time spent is merely a biproduct of enjoying the challenge,risk verse reward for myself.

I dunno,maybe I need to find a new *keyword* for what I enjoy .. *extreme* or something lol