All d3 fanboys wanting AH, Blizzard shutting AH down

thats an extremely cynical take on it Slayer and one I sadly share a lot of. I dont think it was always their intention to take it out when it wore thin, Im so cynical I dont even credit them with ability to foresee it would need to be taken out in advance. I dont think theyre stupid, but I think they were rts/mmo devs who didnt realise how out of their depth they were. The truth will never be known. One things for sure, its become the plan either way. The bottom line rules everything they do, and you can never trust people like that.



I do think they needed to save face though, for the armies of fans who buy the games, for the review websites, for the industry partnerships/sponsorships etc Blizzard cant afford to be seen as a company that have a question mark hanging over everything they release. Not because they take pride in their work over profits, but because their rep makes them money. They need to be the sort of Devs where you pre-order the game on sight, where there is no doubt in the industry that their next game is going to be epic.

Im not saying they cant release bad games and leave them bad, they just cant be seen to be doing it and not giving a shit. They need to be able to say look, we fixed D3 and have the people who want to believe its true buy into it. Moving Jay Wilson off the project was the same thing, a little song and dance, a head on a stick to satisfy the angry mob. Theatrical PR stunts, Wilson probably got a bonus for taking it on the chins.

you all should apply as managers of huge game companies rofl.
you talk as you would know everything but know shit ....

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retsnimle wrote:

I've always had a feeling, a bad feeling, that Blizzard is laying in the weeds, waiting to see if POE becomes successful or not ($).

I could see them launching some form of IP lawsuit, loosely based on D2. Of course POE is different than D2, but there are a lot of similarities, more than enough for Blizzards legal team to latch on to, like a dog with a bone. Even if they got some form of injunction to delay release it would be a "win" as it would kill POE.

I, also, had this feeling, a bad feeling in the past.

Something very clear, is : If PoE becomes more and more successful, a larger portion of the gamers of the world will know about it. And a larger community will hate Blizzard FOREVER for what they have done..

Even Video game Journalism will hate on Blizzard.


Blizzard would not do that, maybe Activision-Blizzard would ?

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SL4Y3R wrote:

1) well implement a RMAH, and tell players its because we dont want a black market. Well, this isnt really a lie, but in the end. They did it to make cash. A lot of it. We saw what was possible, and wanted a piece.

Hey, guess what, POE isn't free to play because GGG are nice, it's because GGG believes they will make more money with a free to play game.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

3) once RMAH sales have slowed down. We can end it. Yes yes, we know players have hated it from the beginning, but well just happen to get rid of it at the same time we release an expansion pack.

They are removing the gold AH aswell, remember?

It's a huge change, so it makes perfect sense to do it when they release the expansion.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Like I said. Its brilliant. Theyve maximized profits out of every possible thing they can. And what's even more amazing? Players are bending over backwards thanking them and singing praise.

Every company is out to maximize profits. What do you think GGG are doing when they are putting adds ingame?
It's not a bad thing. Blizz is maximizing profits by removing a bad element from their game. How can that possibly be a reason to hate them? You are being absolutely ridiculous.

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Sickness wrote:

You are being absolutely ridiculous.

No, Your'e being absolutly ridiculous.

If GGG's only aim was to maximise profit, they would make people pay for their games.

Oh look, Bethesda are charging for Elder Scrolls online, oh look, they are a HUGE company who really dont need to do that, same with Bliz and the rest of the AAA games corps, but oh look, GGG say the game is FTP with no P2W and they believe people will support them because they are making a great game. Its obvious who the games companies are, and who the corporations are.

I agree that they are both out to maximise profits, but I dont see GGG doing it at the expense of their ethics nor are they screwing over their fanbase.

I used to love Blizzard, I was a total fanboi, then I saw the consistant decisions they made over the years and they lost my respect. Any company that acts in this way loses my respect:

EA, Activision, Ubisoft, MS, Apple... the list just goes on and on and on and sadly enchroaches every aspect of my life.

These companies can regain my respect, but... once bitten twice shy.

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AnaLoGMunKy wrote:

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Sickness wrote:

You are being absolutely ridiculous.

No, Your'e being absolutly ridiculous.

If GGG's only aim was to maximise profit, they would make people pay for their games.

Oh look, Bethesda are charging for Elder Scrolls online, oh look, they are a HUGE company who really dont need to do that, same with Bliz and the rest of the AAA games corps, but oh look, GGG say the game is FTP with no P2W and they believe people will support them because they are making a great game. Its obvious who the games companies are, and who the corporations are.

I agree that they are both out to maximise profits, but I dont see GGG doing it at the expense of their ethics nor are they screwing over their fanbase.

I used to love Blizzard, I was a total fanboi, then I saw the consistant decisions they made over the years and they lost my respect. Any company that acts in this way loses my respect:

EA, Activision, Ubisoft, MS, Apple... the list just goes on and on and on and sadly enchroaches every aspect of my life.

These companies can regain my respect, but... once bitten twice shy.

if you _really_ believe that GGG is not out to maximize profit, you should go back to school and learn basics of business ...

you poe fanboys are fucking dreaming ... its hilarious

Good decision by Blizzard, this will probably make the game better for those who play it (or are going to play it).

I still won't go back long term though. There are core game mechanics in that Game I just can't go back to after playing Path of Exile.

Sure, someday I will play the Expansion. I can't really discuss the Expasnion if I didn't play it right?(Still find it funny how some people talk about loot 2.0 etc. as if they already tested it) But coughing up whatever price they decide to go with on Release? I don't think so. And staying any longer than the story mode? Absolutely not.

Ah or no ah i'm still going to play the expansion, i've burn through it with 2000 hours played, atm there isn't much for me in Diablo 3, after 400 hours in Path of exile on a dual wielding char i will not play a melee char in the new league for sure, and when i'll get to 2000 hours in poe i'll be bored the same way.

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AnaLoGMunKy wrote:

If GGG's only aim was to maximise profit, they would make people pay for their games.

Get real. "Free to play" is just another payment model. It works by attracting a large amount of people who will buy microtransactions. They chose it because they think it will be more profitable in the long run.
If they thought p2w would be profitable they would most likely do that, but they have good reasons to believe that it would just kill the game instead.

You are a fanboy, wake up.

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exorzist wrote:

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AnaLoGMunKy wrote:

I agree that they are both out to maximise profits, but I dont see GGG doing it at the expense of their ethics nor are they screwing over their fanbase.

if you _really_ believe that GGG is not out to maximize profit, you should go back to school and learn basics of business ...

you poe fanboys are fucking dreaming ... its hilarious

I really believe... you should read more carefully.

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Sickness wrote:

Get real. "Free to play" is just another payment model.

Repeat this to yourself and think about what you are saying.

I do expect they see F2P as a good business model but it only works if they release a quality game, which they are. Yes, Im a Fanboi, i used to be a Bliz fanboi, Im also a Valve fanboi. Being a fanboi doesnt blind everyone of bad company ethics and practices. Many people also dont pay anything to GGG for playing this game. You DO, however, pay Blizzard, regardless of what you later think of the game.

I prefer the F2P with no P2W business model and I expect we will see more in the future because it leave the choice and power to the buyer and removes many problems like hype, problems that Blizzard used, and still use, to pull in willing sucke... cough, I mean "customers".