If life was back to CB levels...

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nynyny wrote:

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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:

And regarding the dispels, they simply didn't exist on flasks. You couldn't dispel at all.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/55302

Hard to keep track when people jump from endgame in closed beta to "well back in april 2012" to "well in that one race in august 2012".

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nynyny wrote:

And that balance "issue" cant be solved by mentioning the past because the uniques you have access, the endgame mods you can roll, the nodes that are available make the game a completely different one.

So it doesnt matter what you experienced when GR, ZO, Kaoms, specific nodes, map mods didnt exist or were different because those changes change the whole situation, the should change the way you have to think about the game and not just argue "Well a year ago it was possible" while completely disregarding that the game probably also is balanced around these changes by now.

And if a person says that running leech as a caster is something you dont need in the current version of the game he simply shows how little clue he actually has, how little gameplay experience of the current Path of Exile he has. If a person is competent concerning the current game mechanics he doesnt have a reason to constantly refer to the past, especially not in a game that is developing as fast as this one.

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nynyny wrote:

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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:

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nynyny wrote:

And that balance "issue" cant be solved by mentioning the past because the uniques you have access, the endgame mods you can roll, the nodes that are available make the game a completely different one.

So it doesnt matter what you experienced when GR, ZO, Kaoms, specific nodes, map mods didnt exist or were different because those changes change the whole situation, the should change the way you have to think about the game and not just argue "Well a year ago it was possible" while completely disregarding that the game probably also is balanced around these changes by now.

And if a person says that running leech as a caster is something you dont need in the current version of the game he simply shows how little clue he actually has, how little gameplay experience of the current Path of Exile he has. If a person is competent concerning the current game mechanics he doesnt have a reason to constantly refer to the past, especially not in a game that is developing as fast as this one.

Of course it can, when balance changes from one point to another, and things regress, or change position, people have reference. That is how balancing shit works, but I am quite certain you have absolutely no interest in this. Everybody who's seen this thread would know that by now, your attempts to derail and troll are cheap and you've only really been able to make massive amounts of assumptions based on absolutely no grounds.

Referance to a situation that never existed before? Bringing up the past and saying "you know back then it was possible to clear a map without leech" is completely irrelevant to the current state of the game because a lot of mobs most likely are scaled around GR being available, they are scaled around the posibilities you have been given.

And just because it was viable/efficient back then that doesnt mean it is now. Sure I can play a crit based prolif Ice Spear or Freeze Pulser without leech, no problem. But it simply isnt efficient enough to justify playing it over running GR.

You dont even know how I look at balancing because that was never part of the debate about leech. You being too imcompetent to make a 2hander build work while being upset that you are squishy with having 1000 armor at level 70 (thats less than a single decent chest piece can have) says quite a bit about how you want the game to be played.

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nynyny wrote:

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Who says they even had any major influence on the developement of the game? As an Alpha-member sure, I dont know howm any people were present, but in beta? Where you could buy a key for $10?

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nynyny wrote:

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You have nothing, really, don't even try. I played 2 hander builds because that is what I enjoyed, not only that, because people generally avoided playing them and saying they weren't viable. I played them, did okay and gave my honest feedback, repeatedly.

That you even try to comment on my competence is fucking laughable. You can think I'm the worst player in the world for all I care.

Hard to think of you as a competent player when you complain about being squishy playing a build that gets rid of the most important defense the character has to deal more damage but doesnt make up for it in the talent tree.

The amount of feedback doesnt matter, the quality does.

I agree that 2handed builds are in a bad place right now and have gotten a lot of feedback regarding that from people I know and play with that usually ended up respeccing into one hander based builds. The main problem we experience wasnt the overall survivability though, it was the fact that hitting reflect packs and playing reflect maps was basically impossible due to the high spike damage you deal.

But a person who feels the need to express his feelings about him being squishy at level 70 while he has 1000 armor, which is what Grace alone gives you by that point so you probably ran around naked, is pretty hard for me to see as a comptent player.