If life was back to CB levels...

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nynyny wrote:
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Xendran wrote:

I don't even

Hello my name is Xendran. I suffer from a reading disorder and purposely ignore someone telling me what to specc out to get more life if I need it so I can make some MAYMAYXDD comment.


Nah, the problem is you said 160% life. Add 100% to that and it's all good.

Seriously, I was going to flat out ignore your post because you said 160% life, but I thought I'd get a laugh looking at it. I ended up disappointed looking at a fairly reasonable build.
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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:
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nynyny wrote:
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Xendran wrote:

I don't even

Hello my name is Xendran. I suffer from a reading disorder and purposely ignore someone telling me what to specc out to get more life if I need it so I can make some MAYMAYXDD comment.


Nah, the problem is you said 160% life. Add 100% to that and it's all good.

By level 70. That maybe was possible in an efficient way before the life nodes were nerfed and I honestly hope thats what youre referring to because getting that amount of life by level 70 simply is pointless and far from necessary.
No no, you misunderstand, the 100% is from having a character at all. 160% added to that.
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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:
No no, you misunderstand, the 100% is from having a character at all. 160% added to that.

Ahh, alright. Was assuming that its pretty obvious that I mean 160% added, my bad.
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nynyny wrote:
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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:
No no, you misunderstand, the 100% is from having a character at all. 160% added to that.

Ahh, alright. Was assuming that its pretty obvious that I mean 160% added, my bad.


Problem is, you and I both know that build kinda sucks shit in practice and how much better could you do?

Not claiming I can do substantially better, which is the point of this thread.
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nynyny wrote:
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Xendran wrote:

I don't even

Hello my name is Xendran. I suffer from a reading disorder and purposely ignore someone telling me what to specc out to get more life if I need it so I can make some MAYMAYXDD comment.


Oh cool, your real name is the same as my online handle?
I'm sorry about your reading disorder, I wish you all the best.
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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:
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nynyny wrote:
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MrMisterMissedHer wrote:
No no, you misunderstand, the 100% is from having a character at all. 160% added to that.

Ahh, alright. Was assuming that its pretty obvious that I mean 160% added, my bad.


Problem is, you and I both know that build kinda sucks shit in practice and how much better could you do?

Not claiming I can do substantially better, which is the point of this thread.

I played it on my LS Duelist (with a few obvious modifications) and it went pretty well until I lost interest. A friend of mine used it as a basis for his BoR Soul Taker build but with a few less life nodes and more armor.

So by my experience it works, you dont need any damage if you use the right items and auras and god decent damage rolls on your jewl.
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nynyny wrote:


I can believe a 1h build with BIS uniques works to a degree.

If you don't have BoR and Soul taker, or stick to 2h, or solo, or race? How about compared to a top ES build?

These are genuine questions, as I honestly don't know.

Wait, I lie, the 2h one is definitely loaded.

Also, which LS are you referring to? Because I know the one is suicide...oh wait, the other is ranged.

Thats as far as I got on my LSer before I lost interest.

Was basically using trash I found and a handful of decent leveling unique up to level 70 like Malachais and Meginords. If you dont have access to those that makes it a bit more difficult but definitely far from impossible, just slows you down. To be fair I was also running 2 Quick Silvers while leveling, usually you dont do that.

I soloed maps with that build (used a 5link) up from level 70 since I dropped the mask and it went quite smooth. Soloed some maps, mainly blue rolled 66-69 ones, grouped for some higher ones. Thanks to LMP MS the reflect was okay to handle with, didnt use any insane item though, just some trash from my stash.

The main problem used to be Whippers which turned out to be okay to handle as long as I was keeping up End charges and curses Enfeeble, Hatred usually did the rest. Didnt really have a lot of problems in 70+ maps but then again I didnt solo those, bosses always were pain in the ass though and I often had to spam use Decoy totem. Especially Shrine Spider was just ehhh.

As far as races go I am not a hundred percent sure. If its a month race that build should easily be viable because even though it somewhat requires a 5link for the later stages of the game is really isnt hard to find one for cheap, especially not on weapons. If its a 3hour I dont really see a problem since usually you wont get past normal anyway.

Comparing is to a top ES build is hard, youd have to specify that question. Usually you dont play CI before hitting 75+, at least I never do. I always level with life and finish pretty much all the content up until Piety Merc as a life based character, I just respecc the nodes when I go ES. So that life build is around 70, by 70 you usually are pretty weak as CI unless you have incredible gear stashed. Usually the thing that carries you are totems that why my character, even the Pulser, leveled to 80 with Dual Spark because it simply is too dangerous to play Pulser with a 300ES Chest and you rarely find better items in a new league and if you do they are incredibly overpriced.

In my book ES is better than Life, but its not by much because I know myself how valuable Instatpots, 6%HPS, 7 Endurance Charges and a lot of armor actually are. Something you usually dont have as an ES based character
Last edited by nynyny#3398 on Aug 27, 2013, 5:42:44 PM
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nynyny wrote:
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Thats as far as I got on my LSer before I lost interest.

Was basically using trash I found and a handful of decent leveling unique up to level 70 like Malachais and Meginords. If you dont have access to those that makes it a bit more difficult but definitely far from impossible, just slows you down. To be fair I was also running 2 Quick Silvers while leveling, usually you dont do that.

I soloed maps with that build (used a 5link) up from level 70 since I dropped the mask and it went quite smooth. Soloed some maps, mainly blue rolled 66-69 ones, grouped for some higher ones. Thanks to LMP MS the reflect was okay to handle with, didnt use any insane item though, just some trash from my stash.

The main problem used to be Whippers which turned out to be okay to handle as long as I was keeping up End charges and curses Enfeeble, Hatred usually did the rest. Didnt really have a lot of problems in 70+ maps but then again I didnt solo those, bosses always were pain in the ass though and I often had to spam use Decoy totem. Especially Shrine Spider was just ehhh.

As far as races go I am not a hundred percent sure. If its a month race that build should easily be viable because even though it somewhat requires a 5link for the later stages of the game is really isnt hard to find one for cheap, especially not on weapons. If its a 3hour I dont really see a problem since usually you wont get past normal anyway.

Comparing is to a top ES build is hard, youd have to specify that question. Usually you dont play CI before hitting 75+, at least I never do. I always level with life and finish pretty much all the content up until Piety Merc as a life based character, I just respecc the nodes when I go ES. So that life build is around 70, by 70 you usually are pretty weak as CI unless you have incredible gear stashed. Usually the thing that carries you are totems that why my character, even the Pulser, leveled to 80 with Dual Spark because it simply is too dangerous to play Pulser with a 300ES Chest.

In my book ES is better than Life, but its not by much because I know myself how valuable Instatpots, 6%HPS and 7 Endurance Charges and a lot of armor actually are. Something you usually dont have as an ES based character


First off, that build is much closer to something I'd be running now, if I were to play.

Lightning strike, so you're pretty much ranged.

You clearly struggled with defense, I mean, you're even downplaying it (which is saying a lot). Struggled your ass off against bosses, even using as defensive a setup as you can have, pretty much.

You're also saying the build wasn't very effective, okayish, but not great, by your own admission.

You can have 4 endurance charges with any build, regardless of what you're playing, purely choice and need dictate if you do so, but you definitely have the opportunity.

As far as the race go, you say viable, but you're not saying if it'd be effective. I can make about a hundred viable builds without too much problem.

I respect the reply and believe that you're being honest though and would like to thank you for the genuinely useful reply.

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