Thankful for players that most likely pushed the implementation of permanent loot allocation, didnt make it (most at least) past level 79 in Hardcore and orient their balance statements at the past?
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Some people even think of it as the best change to ever happen to thins game.
And yet if you actually knew who you were talking about, you would know that all three of us are FFA purists.
EDIT: I'm glad that other people have taken over the arguing for me. I still enjoy reading nynyny's posts (my internet is shit at the moment, so i need some good sources of comedy since i can't watch Trailer Park Boys), but i can't bring myself to make legitimate responses to him.
Last edited by Xendran#1127 on Aug 27, 2013, 3:08:01 PM
I'm guessing you're referring to me complaining about squishiness (which, according to many people is a fairly valid complaint), and you latching on to my mentioning I had numerous end-game HC melee builds with <1k armour.
Even I agree with the squishyness argument, but apparently youre unable to read. What I simply find incredibly hilarious that you have the balls to complain about survivability while having such defenses.
The logical step for a player with your experience would be to adjust the build and try to improve defenses.
If you had any sort of insight into playing such a build, you would know investing heavily into armour is a trap. It's massively costly and gains you very little, costing you in defense, overall.
Thats a chest from my trash stash tab on Onslaught. It already has more armor than you do. Its 1 piece of 8 that provide you defensive stats, completely ignoring any node in the tree or auras. One piece of gear already top the amount of armor you complain about being squishy with. One piece of gear that doesnt even have an additional armor roll or is starting off with the highest base armor.
How the hell can you justify that amount of defense and complain about it not helping?
Last edited by nynyny#3398 on Aug 27, 2013, 3:05:01 PM
Showing me random gear is pointless without context. Have you considered that maybe, gear like that isn't always available?
Even if you take that, even if every piece of my gear was similar, how much armour would you have? Oh yeah, still not enough. Do you think it'd be a good idea to invest heavily into armour nodes, dropping for instance, resistance nodes, or IAS nodes or even life nodes? You have to be able to justify the investment in armour.
Determination or grace instead of hatred or purity or even vitality? Oh right, IR is mandatory, eventhough you'll get critted into fucking obvlivion.
Showing me random gear is pointless without context. Have you considered that maybe, gear like that isn't always available?
So youre basically saying that a geargrinder shouldnt be balanced around gear, it should be balanced around whether or not youre in the moot to pay a chaos for a chest? Is this supposed to be some bad joke?
Even if we ignore jewlery and belt completely we end up with 250 armor per item, a white level 35 armor already has that much. You pair that with white 62 boots, white 63 gloves and white 60 helm and when you quality all of them you should have ~1000 armor. White gear, white.
Showing me random gear is pointless without context. Have you considered that maybe, gear like that isn't always available?
So youre basically saying that a geargrinder shouldnt be balanced around gear, it should be balanced around whether or not youre in the moot to pay a chaos for a chest? Is this supposed to be some bad joke?
Even if we ignore jewlery and belt completely we end up with 250 armor per item, a white level 35 armor already has that much. You pair that with white 62 boots, white 63 gloves and white 60 helm and when you quality all of them you should have ~1000 armor. White gear, white.
No it should be balanced around gear and not just BIS gear, I didn't say it shouldn't be balanced around gear, but comparing that POS armour to a good ES chest is a fucking joke. The game also has areas and things beyond what you are entirely fixated on.
ES chest? Youre purposely avoiding the fact that we were talking about you trying to justify your low defenses even though they are ridiculously for the level you were on.
If you want to jump towards races and argue about those we can do so. Even in those its impossible to have 1000 armor by level 70 if youre lifebased unless you run around nearly naked.
Last edited by nynyny#3398 on Aug 27, 2013, 3:22:02 PM
ES chest? Youre purposely avoiding the fact that we were talking about you trying to justify your low defenses even though they are ridiculously for the level you were on.
If you want to jump towards races and argue about those we can do so. Even in those its impossible to have 1000 armor by level 70 if youre lifebased unless you run around nearly naked.
You really don't get it, armour is an expensive stat if you're 2h, you should not pay for it and you cannot afford it. There are all kinds of things that you prioritize above it, because you cannot meaningfully stack armour.
If you think the 3k or whatever from your gear is going to be meaningful, well then, I don't know what to say.
ES chest? Youre purposely avoiding the fact that we were talking about you trying to justify your low defenses even though they are ridiculously for the level you were on.
If you want to jump towards races and argue about those we can do so. Even in those its impossible to have 1000 armor by level 70 if youre lifebased unless you run around nearly naked.
You really don't get it, armour is an expensive stat if you're 2h, you should not pay for it and you cannot afford it. There are all kinds of things that you prioritize above it, because you cannot meaningfully stack armour.
If you think the 3k or whatever from your gear is going to be meaningful, well then, I don't know what to say.
Ok explain to me, what do you invest into and what to you spend your points on. I would love to see your talent tree to be honest.
You play 2 hand so you basically abandon defense for offense, therefore offensive nodes arent necessary for starters. So what you do you invest into if its not armor and not damage? Go all around the tree pick up life nodes? Because thats the only thing that is left but pretty inefficent if armor nodes are right next to it.
ES chest? Youre purposely avoiding the fact that we were talking about you trying to justify your low defenses even though they are ridiculously for the level you were on.
If you want to jump towards races and argue about those we can do so. Even in those its impossible to have 1000 armor by level 70 if youre lifebased unless you run around nearly naked.
You really don't get it, armour is an expensive stat if you're 2h, you should not pay for it and you cannot afford it. There are all kinds of things that you prioritize above it, because you cannot meaningfully stack armour.
If you think the 3k or whatever from your gear is going to be meaningful, well then, I don't know what to say.
Ok explain to me, what do you invest into and what to you spend your points on. I would love to see your talent tree to be honest.
You play 2 hand so you basically abandon defense for offense, therefore offensive nodes arent necessary for starters. So what you do you invest into if its not armor and not damage? Go all around the tree pick up life nodes? Because thats the only thing that is left but pretty inefficent if armor nodes are right next to it.
Yes, you mainly have to stack life, I do take a few armour nodes, I also take reduced crit nodes, a few flask nodes and a couple of offensive nodes. Oh and some resistance nodes and obligatory endurance charges.
