Played D3:RoS since release till now, heres the results!
" If you want a 5L build, than a 5L item enables it. That's true. Because you can't have a 5L build without a 5L item. However, like I've said, it's all about the definition of a build. I don't see anywhere "6L Ground Slam build", I see "Ground Slam build". Skills determine a build, along with the playstyle and what thing you use while playing it, extra links enhance it. At least that's my point of view. If links are build enablers, then any better rolled item is a build enabler, because the effect is the same, your build gets improved/enhanced, not enabled. I can make a 6L build filled with curses linked to my Heavy Strike, you would call it a 6L build? What build uses that 10% chance of gaining EC on block, as one of the main points of his build? Yes, there are many builds centered around BoR, but not because it enables them, it enhances them. It's a cheap 6L (Blind is just a bonus, to many players a useless one, and to almost all players a support they never link to their attack unless it comes with the BoR) that provides excellent bonuses that can only be outclassed by an expensive 6L chest and a multiple/dozen exalts helmet. |
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" Oh and, my bad, it's 20% AoE, not 12%. CE doesn't take away the AoE from Reave, it reduces it by 30%, about a third. A CJ increases it by 20%, which is noticeable only if it takes you too long to kill white trash. Again, that's not enabling anything, it just increases the AoE. Is the IAoE gem a build enabling one? CJ is the best chest for Reave builds only DPS-wise, and it doesn't enable any of them. " It exists, it's just that you can't see it. Yes there are those kind of builds, check the last 3 examples I gave. You couldn't play the Mjolner with that Arc proccing without a Mjolner, that defines a build. You cannot regenerate that amount of ES on block without the Aegis, that's a build achievable only with that item. etc. There are build enablers, but only a handful of them. Same question as I've asked majesw, is an item, better rolled than your current one, a build enabler or enhancer? Since you've claimed that those 2 terms are the same, which is very funny I have to say. I doubt that you know the difference. |
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" To me, choosing what you want in a 6-link is part of your build. So are passives, and so is your gear. Certain items you find allow you to change your passive tree. By doing this they allow you to develop an entirely new build. For me, those are build enabling items. Certain rares can do this too! I don't know where Mazul got GGG's definition of "build enabling", but if that's what it is, then I am wrong. Otherwise I'm pretty darn comfortable with calling BoR build enabling because of what it unlocks choice wise in my passive tree. |
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Extra links would be build enablers if the playstyle and some other things would change, which you couldn't do without the extra link.
If it only increases your survivability/DPS, then nothing is enabled because everything stayed the same except your performance/efficiency, the previous form was improved/enhanced. Yes, it "gives" a lot of passive nodes, but it doesn't make a build enabled, build is possible without it, it's just stronger with it, enhanced. It's pretty simple. But alright, agree to disagree. |
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1. Mjölner -> Cast on Crit/Arc...thats the Mjölner build. The Mjölner himself just ENHANCE a CoC/Arc build by adding 4 links to it. Instead of a 6link CoC/Arc build, a Mjölner makes it a 10link Coc/Arc build. Why is suddenly Mjölner a build enabler for you and BoR not? Both do the same....enhacing a certain build by adding links?
2. What kind of build is Aegis Aurora enabling? Or better asked...what kind of build you cannot play when not holding an Aegis Aurora? It just ENHANCE every build which uses this shield to have a better defense. Same like Carcass Jack is enhancing every build to have extra 20% radius of area skills. Call it enhancer or enabler....but dont make a difference and fool yrself. Last edited by OleOlof#5737 on May 16, 2014, 1:31:03 PM
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Because it's not CoC, it's proccing a lightning spell on hit. You can proc a lightning spell with Resolute Technique, which is impossible without it.
Aegis enables the best defensive build in the game, by far. You can't get ES on block anywhere, let alone in the amounts possible. It's a build that relies on getting hit, the more monsters are hitting you - the better, no other build is based on that. It doesn't enhance any other build, it's a build on it's own "philosophy". It doesn't just increase defenses, it changes the playstyle, which is the thing that sets difference in builds. CJ doesn't do any of those, it's a blunt enhancement. The last claim is out of my comprehension, I don't speak that language. When you decide to attack someone on a personal basis, at least do it right. |
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" Asks your self if BoR didn't exist, what would happen. Block builds would be less strong but all BoR builds would still work. Any of the skills you put in the BoR you can also put in a 6L 5L or even a 4L and still be effective with it. Speccing out of 7 block nodes does not make for an entirely new build. You're still using the same skills, supports and passives. i use a secret account because i am a politician that doesnt want the NSA to know i play poe.
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Okay, so for you every unique with an unique mechanic like Lightbane Ringmail (50% chance to create Descerate on block) is a build enabler while every unique with just a keystone, extra links in it or simply extra stats (which cant be rolled like CJ) is just an enhancer.
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" I've proven it with numbers, not sure why you talk about movement but that even further proves my point, as I said in T6 you have to kite more so you lose even more time, which makes T4 even better. You (obviously) can't prove your claim, so we'll just stick with the numbers then :) GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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" Okay bro. Nice putting words in my? or whoevers mouth. Lightbane ringmail isn't actually a build enabler as it doesn't enable you to do anything. It's not an enhancer either as the stats are terrible and the effect doesn't augment anything. A unique with a keystone is obviously a build enhancer since you won't have to travel all the way to the keystone. A unique with really good stats or links is a build enhancer. i use a secret account because i am a politician that doesnt want the NSA to know i play poe. Last edited by DogFaceNoSpace#4931 on May 16, 2014, 3:57:42 PM
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