Played D3:RoS since release till now, heres the results!

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Sickness wrote:

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Reinhart wrote:

Who uses low level uniques, which are designed for low lvl gameplay (since they have a low lvl requirement), on a 90+ char?

My point exactly. Low level uniques does not make you roll a new character. They are just temporary twink items.
Why would I be excited to find a low level unique when playing a high level character when (basically) no low level uniques are good for high level characters. I'm not gonna make a character that is made for level 30, that is just pointless.

I am still waiting for that list though.

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Xavderion wrote:

Again, you're missing the point. I complained how easy it was to faceroll on Expert with a fresh char without ruby gem cheesing. Expert is the highest difficulty you can pick on a fresh account. That's why I made fun of D3's difficulty, has nothing to do with torment. And please explain why people are farming T6 unless it's for bragging rights or they suck at math or don't care about playing efficiently?

@mazul

Yes, challenge aka fun is a good enough reason, but tinko was talking about how playing higher difficulties is more rewarding (in terms of items per hour or whatever) in D3. That's wrong.

Just lately, few days ago, I've started from 0 with a Crusader, on Expert, needless to say I was nowhere near the facerolling, at least not until I've dropped some nasty legendary which upped my DPS by a lot and I had no trouble with survivability, it's my priority.
I'll probably switch to the higher difficulty on 65-70th lvl, but right now, on 58th, it's not going to happen.
So I guess you were incredibly luckier than I am, or you're simply talented and an excellent, top tier player, or something else.

Does it really require explaining? Some players don't have halved clear speed in T6 compared to T4, I guess you've read that somewhere that it's a basic thing and now here you are claiming it. However, a RL acquittance is running T6 for months, with a WW Barbarian. And he, with his buddies isn't doing it for the bragging rights, he's the ultimate item hunter, ultimate min-maxer, and yes, he is doing it for the drops primarily, challenge is a big bonus.
And that's just him and his buddies, a fluke that I know that.

Really now, cut the crap with the things you've read somewhere. Experience it, and then try.

You're saying I'm wrong here, why am I wrong? Because of your halved clear speed argument?

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Sickness wrote:

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majesw wrote:

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Sickness wrote:

Now, tell me why that aspect isn't exactly the same in D3?

There aren't really any low level uniques that encourage you to build a new character in D3, and the high level uniques you can just swap your character skills around to use.

That's a pretty big difference.

The bad low level uniques in PoE doesn't encourage you to build a new character either.

Not my point however. Why can't you just build whatever you want in D3?

Because you don't build anything in D3. You level one character, then change in whatever way you feel whenever you feel that way.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it's not building a character.

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majesw wrote:

Because you don't build anything in D3. You level one character, then change in whatever way you feel whenever you feel that way.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it's not building a character.

You can also change in the same way in PoE, it just costs and serves as a part of the economy, and if you don't have the money, you reroll.

All things got their pros and cons.

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tinko92 wrote:

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LostForm wrote:

that set of legendary shoulders with the special affix which lets me not be interrupted while casting town portal, poe aint got shit on those.

It provides a ~60% damage reduction, I don't think I need to explain in what situations that's useful and a life-saver.

lol. [Removed by Support] that affix is a joke, and so is your defense of it. it is easily replaced by any other affix, unless you are saying that people are switching set of shoulders in order to then tp out? ya nah, you have died.

bah why did i respond, you are clearly just trolling by this point. i lose inet points for responding to your ridiculousness.

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Reinhart wrote:

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Sickness wrote:

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Reinhart wrote:

Who uses low level uniques, which are designed for low lvl gameplay (since they have a low lvl requirement), on a 90+ char?

My point exactly. Low level uniques does not make you roll a new character. They are just temporary twink items.
Why would I be excited to find a low level unique when playing a high level character when (basically) no low level uniques are good for high level characters. I'm not gonna make a character that is made for level 30, that is just pointless.

I am still waiting for that list though.

If you agree that low level uniques are useless for high level characters then what is your point? Say I give you a list, then what? Lets save some time here.

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tinko92 wrote:

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majesw wrote:

Because you don't build anything in D3. You level one character, then change in whatever way you feel whenever you feel that way.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it's not building a character.

You can also change in the same way in PoE, it just costs and serves as a part of the economy, and if you don't have the money, you reroll.

All things got their pros and cons.

Except it's not the same way.
You have actual Character stats that add to and develop your character here. D3 placed all of those things onto gear, taking away an entire process and simplifying it. However, their game also lost something when they did that.

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Sickness wrote:

If you agree that low level uniques are useless for high level characters then what is your point? Say I give you a list, then what? Lets save some time here.

Low level uniques are designed for low level gameplay and may or may not be useful for high level characters. But that still doesn't make them bad as you claim.

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Reinhart wrote:

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Sickness wrote:

If you agree that low level uniques are useless for high level characters then what is your point? Say I give you a list, then what? Lets save some time here.

Low level uniques are designed for low level gameplay and may or may not be useful for high level characters. But that still doesn't make them bad as you claim.

Context is everything I suppose. He said that I don't like making new builds and that was supported by the fact that I consider low level uniques to be bad.
But for me low level uniques have nothing to do with making a new build because I would never make a "low level build". So finding a low level unique on my high level character is not the least bit exciting.

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LostForm wrote:

lol. [Removed by Support] that affix is a joke, and so is your defense of it. it is easily replaced by any other affix, unless you are saying that people are switching set of shoulders in order to then tp out? ya nah, you have died.

bah why did i respond, you are clearly just trolling by this point. i lose inet points for responding to your ridiculousness.

I don't white knight anything, ever.

And I've never said it's a BiS or anything close to that. Shoulders already have the worst unique mods on them.
And it probably is the worst of them all, but it's not useless. It can be useful and a life-saver at some rare occasions, you have nothing to dispute this, and you're claiming that I'm trolling, [Removed by Support]

Why did you respond?[Removed by Support]

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Except it's not the same way.
You have actual Character stats that add to and develop your character here. D3 placed all of those things onto gear, taking away an entire process and simplifying it. However, their game also lost something when they did that.

You have tree + gear + gems, if you want to change your character it costs you, unlike in D3, where you can change skills for free.

However, the size of the tree can make a different version (with different keystones) less efficient.