So frustrating that the same mistake is repeated in every D2 clone

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ressiv wrote:

Sorry can't take this seriously, I was talking about the complete loot system and not about a single mirror drop because of RNG, really sorry though

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iamacyborg wrote:

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Hyskoa wrote:

I played PVE for ten years, so did a huge number of people I played with. Granted, it's less now, but it's still a large amount of people.
I pulled those people from D2 to try out POE, all went away after a month or two because poe's PVE is frustrating and simply not fun due to gearchecks and a lot of other things.(mainly gearchecks).

And the reason all those other pve games fail is because they focus on loot and artificially extend the game to the point of breaking(like quest checks, slow xp, etcetera).
And this game does indeed not allow people to fuck stuff up. They also allow zero experimentation unless your gear can carry the build. Which takes too long to grind. And most people can't be arsed.

So, again, pvp wasn't endgame for most people. It was however endgame for you and your friends. But don't generalise. As it's simply not true.

Yup. Mahesys is just showing his ignorance.

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Mahesys wrote:

Ignorance? :D do you have a remote idea of my experience in D2 and my whole RPG experience?

I'm just pointing out that the best of the gear, the best of the endgame gear in D2 was necessary ONLY for PvP, not for PvE at all. This is just the truth. And a single player D2 player should not compare drops in D2 vs. drops in PoE; because they are two total different things.

And again Hysoka: who the fuck are you to say most people think D2 endgame is PvE? got any valid proof?? your valid proof is you and your 10-100-1000 firends? well i had friends playing for PvP only then.

On the other side, who the fuck am i to say PvP was endgame? do i have any proof?? absolutely no, but i just said the truth: endgame gear was necessary only for PvP in D2, rest of content is easily doable with really really mediocre gear. You just can't argue with this. Be objective and quit your "i dont play PvP so it doesn't exist"

Well story is always the same: anti PvP players wll argue PvE was endgame, PvP players will argue it was PvP. But please don't say someone is ignorant at will and without any good point """diamond""" buddy

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Hyskoa wrote:

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Mahesys wrote:

Ignorance? :D do you have a remote idea of my experience in D2 and my whole RPG experience?

I'm just pointing out that the best of the gear, the best of the endgame gear in D2 was necessary ONLY for PvP, not for PvE at all. This is just the truth. And a single player D2 player should not compare drops in D2 vs. drops in PoE; because they are two total different things.

And again Hysoka: who the fuck are you to say most people think D2 endgame is PvE? got any valid proof?? your valid proof is you and your 10-100-1000 firends? well i had friends playing for PvP only then.

On the other side, who the fuck am i to say PvP was endgame? do i have any proof?? absolutely no, but i just said the truth: endgame gear was necessary only for PvP in D2, rest of content is easily doable with really really mediocre gear. You just can't argue with this. Be objective and quit your "i dont play PvP so it doesn't exist"

Well story is always the same: anti PvP players wll argue PvE was endgame, PvP players will argue it was PvP. But please don't say someone is ignorant at will and without any good point """diamond""" buddy

Well, let's solve it the same way in POE. Pvp requires the best gear and POE-PVE has the same difficulty rating as D2-PVE.

There, world peace. Finally.

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ahcos wrote:

I really hope they don't listen to the casualkids and rather keep working on implementing cool skills like Animate Guardian/Weapon properly. If this game will ever be even remotely close to games like D3 RoS in terms of "insane amount of endgame drops", i'm out. Not by choice, but because the game will be incredible boring after a week then.

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mushioov wrote:

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ahcos wrote:

I really hope they don't listen to the casualkids and rather keep working on implementing cool skills like Animate Guardian/Weapon properly. If this game will ever be even remotely close to games like D3 RoS in terms of "insane amount of endgame drops", i'm out. Not by choice, but because the game will be incredible boring after a week then.

Well said and I agree.

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ahcos wrote:

Not everyone wants the game to be so easy as D2 LOD. POE has a pretty serious "PVE endgame", for a loot grinder that is. It's not overwhelming, but definitely a hundred times more than every other loot grinder ever had before in this regard. And i'm more than happy that they don't have the same scaling as D2 here.

I really hope they don't listen to the casualkids and rather keep working on implementing cool skills like Animate Guardian/Weapon properly. If this game will ever be even remotely close to games like D3 RoS in terms of "insane amount of endgame drops", i'm out. Not by choice, but because the game will be incredible boring after a week then.

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mushioov wrote:

Well said and I agree.

It's funny because you are easily the msot casual person in this thread.