Why is GGG caving in to casuals' demands?

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deteego wrote:

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Robert_Paulson wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, anything after completing the main story/quests (3 times), is endgame.
If being all elitist and imposing arbitrary numbers on which map level constitutes endgame, then please persist if it makes you feel manly.

Then your definition of endgame is not realistic.

Question: someone plays 100% self-found. They complete Act 3. They have 5-10 uniques, maybe 1-2 are truly helpful to their build. They could tackle maps, or start a new character. Is it endgame?

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Robert_Paulson wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, anything after completing the main story/quests (3 times), is endgame.
If being all elitist and imposing arbitrary numbers on which map level constitutes endgame, then please persist if it makes you feel manly.

High level maps give a chance at valuable uniques and are much more efficient for leveling than boss runs. You mind as well compare doing nightmare meph runs to hell baal runs.

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reboticon wrote:

OP took 6 month break from game. Highest chars are level 53 in HC level 60 in SC. Complains about Casuals, while being definition of casual. Irony rules.

You don't understand: the game was too easy for him, so he looked elsewhere. Happens very often that people who demand harder game, don't actually play. I mean, how hard PoE could be, while you are playing Candy Crush or sitting in act 1 norm, flipping all day long? The game is ez. Orbs drop rate needs to be reduced, as well as armour and elemental res efficiency. Who wants to have an over-powered character in an aRPG? It's crazy.

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skinnay wrote:

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mushioov wrote:

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reboticon wrote:

OP took 6 month break from game. Highest chars are level 53 in HC level 60 in SC. Complains about Casuals, while being definition of casual. Irony rules.

It's not unplayable, far from it. But small tweaks make up the big whole. Sooner or later all the core elements have been changed so much that the "soul" is lost.
And fyi, I'm far from casual.

you don't have a single character past 60...how can you really claim you aren't a casual

Maybe he deleted and rerolled when he came back,maybe he plays solo self found/gambled,maybe he deletes characters at level 80,maybe he started a fresh account,maybe he plays to level 60 and then restarts over and over and over because he finds no joy in playing further content,maybe he has played more hours than both of us combined.


Could be far from casual.

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deteego wrote:

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Robert_Paulson wrote:

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Novalisk wrote:

D2 was way more casual than PoE's current state. You could reach end-game and do baal runs in about a week, while it takes much longer than that to reach end-game and do high map runs.

You can play a character from start through to a3m in a day if you know what you're doing.

Act 3m is not end game, end game is like level 70+ maps

The comparison was a week to end game.

You say end game is 70+ maps.

I started a character 4 days ago.
Didn't play it exclusively, played others too.
Went direct to Merciless Piety and killed her at 59.
Was doing 66/67 maps at 60.
Was doing 70 maps at 65.
Am doing 70+ maps now.

Completely self found.
1 day 6 hours /played.

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torta21 wrote:

i dont think this game is casual,you have to spend at least 3~4 h to archive something

Even that isn't enough most of the time.

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Temper wrote:

Maybe he deleted and rerolled when he came back,maybe he plays solo self found/gambled,maybe he deletes characters at level 80,maybe he started a fresh account,maybe he plays to level 60 and then restarts over and over and over because he finds no joy in playing further content,maybe he has played more hours than both of us combined.


Could be far from casual.

Screenshots or it didn't happen. Also the account/player in question has two supporter titles if my short memory serves me correctly. I don't see why someone would support with one account then make one that can't show off the swag. Then again, this is the internet and making sense isn't what we do here so...

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TheAnuhart wrote:

The comparison was a week to end game.

You say end game is 70+ maps.

I started a character 4 days ago.
Didn't play it exclusively, played others too.
Went direct to Merciless Piety and killed her at 59.
Was doing 66/67 maps at 60.
Was doing 70 maps at 65.
Am doing 70+ maps now.

Completely self found.
1 day 6 hours /played.

Thats nice, it appears that you are doing a combination of

1. Playing 6+ hours a day
2. Playing a broken FotM build
3. Leveling with highest rolled uniques/rares

People who work and have money = people who have less time to play, probably = casual.

People who have time to play all day because they don't work = probably don't have any money to begin with.