What is "Self Found" exactly?
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" They are free to use any other terminology, but "self-found" shouldn't be it. It goes against what the word actually means. Imposing a non-trade rule is fine, but I will not accept a such to alone be sufficient to really justify the terminology "self-found". Of course, there is a significant difference depending on whether "self-found" refers to the verb "to find" or "to found". In either case, getting direct help from other players to earn exp and items is not consistent with what the words actually mean. This message was delivered by GGG defence force.
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" I just find certain types of people who tend to dominate the trade chat to be highly distasteful. As a result, I have marginal participation in the economy. I've never done any content in PoE as part of a group. I prefer to set my own pace, which tends to be much more relaxed than the typical group experience. Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. Benjamin Franklin Last edited by Artanthos#0192 on Dec 5, 2013, 12:10:54 PM
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" We could also start using the word "orange" for what we currently refer to as "pear". Etymology matters and for logical reasons it also should matter. Specially in a game like PoE where the items you find and the wealth you earn is strongly affected by the MF-stat of the last hitter, it wouldn't make any sense to agree with that a person who uses the MF stat of another person's character can call his character "self-found". This message was delivered by GGG defence force.
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Last edited by skinnay#1438 on Jan 7, 2015, 9:14:25 AM
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" But, the "friend" wouldn't be in SFL in the first place as he traded for gear. Personally, I don't see a problem with parties. Really, a league isn't what I would like. I want a self found "mode" at character creation. Selecting the option would permanently disable trading for that character. Vendors are different, that's part of the game. It's when you get access to loot from another player that is outside the bounds of self-sufficiency, imo. Instead of a self-found player, you have a self-found party. If that means one person is geared up for MF and the others are there to enjoy the benfits then I don't really give a shit. If that's how they have fun then go for it. Anyways, I think we can all agree that "I didn't find this, I gave some guy 5 chaos and he gave it to me" violates the self-found rule. Last edited by bluefalcon74#6991 on Dec 5, 2013, 12:21:47 PM
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" When I wrote the post you are quoting I intended to refer to the "self-found" terminology, and not "self-found" leagues. Why that would be of relevance is because currently people do claim to play self-found without playing in a self-found league. Actually there are self-found temporary leagues though: all the solo races. The problem with partying is that it is in several cases not consistent with the expression "self-found" from an etymological perspective. Of course, that small issue can be solved by simply choosing a different name for the league or playstyle. This message was delivered by GGG defence force.
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Found is the past tense of find. Don't see any problem with that.
I play 100% self-found, and I don't do parties. I think most people in the self-found mindset just don't feel like dealing with the drama and bullshit that others impose on their fun. Last edited by bluefalcon74#6991 on Dec 5, 2013, 12:25:29 PM
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Self found for many players have a completely or different meaning for many different people compared to one another.
Which is why is nearly impossible to make a "self-found" league that "everyone" who is "self-found" can play and it'll fit to their exact expectations of how they want to play the game. There isn't a single player offline mode were you can "mod" the game to how exactly you'll like it. Next best thing are races or upcoming feature were you can buy your own private league. |
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" If you play in a party and together take down a monster that drops items, then all those items are found by you together, and none of those items are found by either of you alone. That's why it cannot be self-found, that would be a contradiction. Edit: It would be party-found XD and if you only have two party members in total, it would be duo-found. This message was delivered by GGG defence force. Last edited by mazul#2568 on Dec 5, 2013, 12:26:59 PM
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