1200 fusings, no 6 link
" Is your build not complete w/o a 6l? Can you not kill mobs quickly with a 4/5L? I've wanted a 6l for a while, just to have one. I got one the other day and went through all my gems and couldn't for the life of me figure out what to put on it. All I knew is I wanted more damage but there isn't many options for physical damage blue gems so I just threw add crit strikes in there because I had no other good options. If you spend alot of time playing you will acquire great gear, gear that won't even require you have a 6l. Shit that will keep you alive in the toughest situations and kill the hardest mobs/bosses quickly. I've seen a few people with 10-20k DPS using only a 5l, which aren't hard to come by especially now 3 months into the current ladder. Wanna know why I and some others are willing to spend +1k trying to 6l a marohi? We know that it will be the most expensive item on the server, or at least in the top 5. Our DPS is fine without that extra link and all of us have our marohi's 5l, shit, Bash and I each have 2 so we can throw fusings at the one we aren't using and use a 5l one. I, by no means need or hell, even really want a 6l marohi besides for it's trophy value. I have a shitload of orbs and no upgrades that I could buy so I say the hell with it, just waste them to see if I can get an item I know many people would die to have. Zaka put it best, 6ls are pretty damn overrated. I'll take a step further and say even if a build can gain dps off it, it's going to be a couple hundred on top of the 2-20k they already have. If you want a luxury item you should have to pay a luxury price. So I'll repeat, nothing wrong with 6ls taking an absurd amount of fusings, I just ask that they are easier to acquire from a non-drop/non-trade situation, specifically make it so I can get 2 fusings for 1 6s item. Finished 17th in Rampage - Peaked at 11th Finished 18th in Torment/Bloodline 1mo Race - peaked at 9th Null's Inclination Build 2.1.0 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1559063 Summon Skeleton 1.3 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1219856 Last edited by Moosifer#0314 on Dec 5, 2012, 9:24:15 AM
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It depends a lot on the skill and how much mana you can afford. There are quite a few skills that benefit significantly from a 6L (and any crit build will benefit substantially from the two crit supports). For example elemental Cleave, you want Wep Ele Dmg, Faster Attacks, Inc AoE, Conc Effect, and in that last slot you can get a lot out of Inc Crit Dmg with the right build, or Mana leech if you have mana issues, or even a life leech gem would be extremely helpful.
Almost certainly not needed though. My current elemental bow character hit 20k lightning arrow DPS at lvl 62 on a 4L, without expensive gear like Wakes or Maligros. And though I'd certainly like to put Crit Dmg and Mana leech on Lightning Arrow, those are definitely luxuries. Last edited by aimlessgun#1443 on Dec 5, 2012, 10:42:34 AM
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For a cold caster, going from 5L to 6L is a considerable upgrade
I'm using Lmp/faster casting/mana leech/added lightning damage, and the 6th socket could be cold penetration or increased critical dmg Cold penetration doubles your dmg against any resist mob and is even more useful in rare situation (yellow immune to curse with base resist + resist mod) and increased critical dmg is a 10-20% depending on build/gear) For es builds, I don't think it's necessary to use increased critical chance as diamonds are overpowered and easy to maintain For phys melee character there's some support gem to use if you already have mana leech from gear edit: isn't the 120% bonus dmg from shock worth it ? or are you supposed to get the shock from totem or something Last edited by Pam#2190 on Dec 5, 2012, 1:26:31 PM
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Added lightning damage?
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Blood magic gem significantly benefits my build. I even wish i had another slot for added fire damage to even further by fire penetration (because i use blackgleam).
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All builds CAN benefit from them, yes, but at what point does that extra damage become worth anything? I know at 15/22k dps, I was 1 shotting most mobs to begin with. I know my 35/92k harper was one shotting things without regard to any sort of nothing-anything. So while you gain numerical benefit, do you really gain much practical value?
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" Of course i don't NEED it but if i decide to at least get 1,6 link i'd rather not spend so much time in the attempt...i don't mind putting time into an item if it's at least guaranteed in some way even if it's 1.5k fusings or more and at that price you cant really complain because if there was a way to do it they would spend as much time as the average person if not MORE time getting it Ancestral Bond. It's a thing that does stuff. -Vipermagi
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" Because it's not needed is the exact reason I think it shouldn't be cheap. Yes, it's frustrating to spend that much to walk away with nothing but at the same time at the point you are willing to spend 1k+ fusings to get a 6l what else are you looking to get? I spent 250 gcps eqv between buying the marohi, jewelers to 6s both (got one for free from epsi to link) and fusings on both. I ended up with a 6s and a 5l marohi. It was depressing but the 2-3 weeks it took to recover from that massive loss of orbs I didn't find a single upgrade worth purchasing. Finished 17th in Rampage - Peaked at 11th
Finished 18th in Torment/Bloodline 1mo Race - peaked at 9th Null's Inclination Build 2.1.0 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1559063 Summon Skeleton 1.3 - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1219856 |
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" i find it funny that people consider 1000 fusings a week to be "normal", there is normal for people who play this game 3 - 10 hours a day and then there is normal for people who play 1 - 2 hours. there is also a well defined difference in the time it takes to accumulate wealth between those with the savvy or soullessness, depending on who you ask , to take serious advantage of the economy to rapidly accumulate wealth and those who cant or don't. the double name formula + 80 stash tabs is a prime example between the haves and have nots. not that everyone has the money to get 80 stash tabs but money is time, some have more money ,some have more time and some have both . and these people seem to be using the ones that have both time and money in excess as their examples in the majority. and you cannot and should not use these people alone as the fundamental grounding for your arguments. that is like using botters in diablo 3 as the economic basis of a game and gosh look what good that shit did for blizzard eh? the bots are still there , and ONLY the bots are there. I recall the comment about 1500 fusings for a 6l , you are damn right I want that in the game , why it is not already in is beyond me. 1 week to get 1000 fusings is fine for those who play alot. but for those who don't; 1000 in half a year is not all that unrealistic. keep that in mind Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Dec 5, 2012, 9:39:33 PM
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The double name thing is no longer relevant.
Are you suggesting that someone who spends less time playing be able to have the same things as those who do within the same window? Because that's not how these games work. What may take me 2-3 weeks may take you 6 months. There's nothing wrong with that. Last edited by SL4Y3R#7487 on Dec 5, 2012, 11:33:10 PM
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