1200 fusings, no 6 link

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BeyondAnyTherapy wrote:

Am i wrong in my thinking or is the 6th slot not commonly used for MF anyway?

Got a 6link, ended up using it as 4link + rarity and quantity gems. 6 links are fun, but not a requirement to play and destroy the game.

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Imbalanxd wrote:

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Wega52 wrote:

I see you joined us the 1 of December, and I am curious to how far you have actually manged to get yousef in the game in this time? Have you tried end-game yet? Do you know how much effort is needed to gather fussing orbs? Do you have any idea of how much one would actually NEED a 6L compared to a 5 link?

Just wondering...

Oh, I do apologize. Allow me to stop having opinions or posting at all on the forums until I have at least 1 merciless complete hardcore character.

In case you didn't notice, that was sarcasm, and you are a moron.

Actually Imbalanxd, you should probably really take a break from qq-ing on the forums and go play the game some more. All your opinions in the threads/posts you have been making in the past few days are skewed through the prism of inexperience and general cluelessness. Also calling people names on the internet is really classy.

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Imbalanxd wrote:

posting at all on the forums until I have at least 1 merciless complete hardcore character.

Well...it helps to get one over 55 in default before talking about the end game.

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Imbalanxd wrote:

The OP is essentially "forced" to go for the 6 link, and it is incredibly and insanely rare. This is a bad combination.

No. You have to weigh the various benefits of different kinds of upgrades, and the relative cost to gain each of them.

Let me make an example of one particular upgrade path. Say these are all the different chest armours I wear from merci through late endgame:
1st, a fellshrine level rare: 3-linked and middle-of-the-line stats.
ilvl 60: pretty good stats; 4-linked.
ilvl 66: 4-link with awesome stats.

So now, what is the next upgrade?
Get to a max level map
pull down some ilvl 71 chest piece
chaos it until it actually has undeniably godly stats

You're going to 5-link it, because that's achievable. If you choose to attempt 6-linking, you're just going to have a garbage item in your stash with awesome godly stats that you can't use.

So you 5-link it and wear it.

ONLY at this point, ONLY now when you have an ilvl 71 godly 5-link, NOW you will go get ANOTHER ilvl 71 armour/weapon and go through the WHOLE thing again. At the end when you have a 2nd godly with 5 links you will wear the worse one and begin resocketing/relinking the better.

When 6 links pop out finally, turn around and sell your 5-linked godly for 50 chaos 50 fusing, or 7 exalts, or something. Maybe not realistic in today's econ but when pop gets high there should be more people in the game who understand what items are actually worth.

If you are actually pushing for a 6-link before this point you're not being realistic. It's wasting potential upgrades - that is, upgrading your gear mods rather than a stupidly expensive and improbable 6th link. 30-50 chaoses, 300 jeweler's orbs and 30 fusings is about right for a godly 5-link. The 6er is many times more expensive than this, and so improbable that you can't even really put a realistic cost on it. Now, if you get lucky, and the process just spits out a 6-link for you? Take it to the bank, man.

Stop, please stop claiming 6 links are required for anything. In fact, they're so NOT required it's laughable. They enable god-mode, obviously they're going to be stupidly rare/priceless.

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Zakaluka wrote:

Stop, please stop claiming 6 links are required for anything. In fact, they're so NOT required it's laughable. They enable god-mode, obviously they're going to be stupidly rare/priceless.

I already mentioned it but I was dying for a 6l mostly because I never had one (which I think is the actual root of the issue at hand) then when I got slurm's 6l ES I threw added crit strikes for a 300 DPS bonus. The goal is to get the colors changed so I can get mana leech in there. Which with most other people's logic mana leech would be in there and faster projectiles wouldn't (EK) so my goal is to have a spammable EK that has long range from my 6l. What about that situation sounds required?

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Zakaluka wrote:

30-50 chaoses, 300 jeweler's orbs and 30 fusings is about right for a godly 5-link.

30-50 chaoses will not give you godly stats and 30 fusings will not make a 5 link unless you are insanely lucky.

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Zakaluka wrote:

ONLY at this point, ONLY now when you have an ilvl 71 godly 5-link, NOW you will go get ANOTHER ilvl 71 armour/weapon and go through the WHOLE thing again. At the end when you have a 2nd godly with 5 links you will wear the worse one and begin resocketing/relinking the better.

Why bother making a 2nd good chest? The average amount of fusings it takes to make a 5 link is 100. For it to be worth it I would need to be able to make a 2nd good chest for less than the cost of 100 fusings, that isn't likely.

It's better to just hoard a bunch of fusings before breaking a 5 link, to increase the odds of remaking it, and then hoarding a bunch of fusings before trying again.

For example almost every time I broke the 5 link on my chest I had 300 fusings, and as soon as I got a 5 link again I stopped rolling and saved up to 300 again. I only lost the 5 link twice when I got impatient and kept rolling instead of saving up to 300.

It might be better to save up to 400 or 500 I guess. The most fusings I've ever heard of someone using without making a 5 link was 500. But it's completely random, just like every other orb. It could take thousands of fusings for a 5 link, who knows. But chaos orbs are random too, you could potentially waste thousands of them and never get a good roll.

Every time you use an orb pursuing a 6 link, that doesn't give you a chance of actually getting a 6 link, you are wasting an orb.

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Zakaluka wrote:

You're going to 5-link it, because that's achievable.

You seem to assume that 5 links are achievable, as if they were guaranteed somehow. What do you think of someone spending over 500 fusings and not even getting a 5 link? Do you think that's a problem?

I'm not saying that 6 links are necessary, I'm not saying they should be easy to get, I'm not saying everyone should have one, or that anyone needs one. What I'm saying is the extreme randomness of fusings orbs will inevitably result in a small number of people being screwed, and the process of actually rolling 1600 fusing orbs and getting nothing from it isn't very fun.

I know 5-links are achievable because I've made a few of them. It's a much more reasonable hill to climb intentionally than 6-link which is like climbing El Capitan. Almost everyone has more efficient ways to use resources.

So if you don't already have your godly 5-link ilvl 71, why the hell try to 6-link. Your approach for re-linking an existing 5L is pretty solid, I hadn't thought of that. But you must empathize with my logic on some level: once you break those 5 links, you never know if you're going to get them back. I start working on a second item to replace my first, instead. Anything else, even a strategy with "good odds" for break-even results has the potential for turning you into the OP here: best chest armour that he's spent tons of currency on sitting in stash, useless. Then we will see this thread again. Groundhog day, and all that.

We're talking about 6-linking here. That's the subject. Cost to 5-link is fine. Breaking your best item to purposefully attempt a 6-link is risky. Making a second item is cheap in comparison, then you can trade it out after you get your desired result.

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Moosifer wrote:

with most other people's logic mana leech would be in there and faster projectiles wouldn't (EK) so my goal is to have a spammable EK that has long range from my 6l. What about that situation sounds required?

Well, EK is really hard to support without leech, something we've discussed before. That 6-l with leech would probably make it much easier to spam EK with range and never running out of mana. Certainly a pretty amazing convenience. I wouldn't know, haven't yet had a 6-link to try it with. But, I get by without faster projectiles pretty well.

RNG can be a bitch sometimes.

But, sometimes it can be oh so lovely.

19 fusings:



So, out of the 3 I've made in my time here at PoE. All three have been done with less than 300.

98,250,19

RNG is RNG

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SL4Y3R wrote:

So, out of the 3 I've made in my time here at PoE. All three have been done with less than 300.

98,250,19

RNG is RNG

Just once I'd like to be the guy who does that!!!

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BazzV5 wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

So, out of the 3 I've made in my time here at PoE. All three have been done with less than 300.

98,250,19

RNG is RNG

Just once I'd like to be the guy who does that!!!

You know what must be done.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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BazzV5 wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

So, out of the 3 I've made in my time here at PoE. All three have been done with less than 300.

98,250,19

RNG is RNG

Just once I'd like to be the guy who does that!!!

You know what must be done.

It's done!!!

I created a new char called BazzVslurms last night.