Is it really that bad to cancel a trade and accept a higher offer?

If you make an agreement then back out, well yes, its bad.

Dont agree if you are not sure you will do it? Ive made that mistake to people before and they were understandably pissed off.

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McNig wrote:

¨anyone can buy OCP stock¨

I'm not familiar with "OCP" can you elaborate?[/quote]

this is a quote from the robocop movie, by a narcissistic capitalist ceo.
i found some of the dialog:

The next day, anticipating the successful takeover of Detroit by OCP, its CEO gives a speech about the free market and has an exchange with the mayor.
CEO: And so, people of the press, city officials, in a few minutes Omni Consumer Products and the troubled city of Detroit will join in a bold new venture. Now I’d like to explain just what this will be. Sometimes we just have to start over from scratch to make things right. And that’s exactly what we’re going to do. We’re going to build a brand new city where Detroit now stands. An example to the world. My friends, welcome to our city as it should be, and as it will be in the hands of responsible private enterprise.
MAYOR: You’ll have to tear down a lot of houses to build that. Lot of people will lose their homes!
CEO: We’re going to build towers of glass and steel. Everyone will have a place to live. Safe, secure, and clean.
MAYOR: What about Democracy? Nobody elected you!
CEO: Anyone can buy OCP stock and own a piece of our city. What could be more democratic than that?

I see no problem with this. The two of you should be in agreement until the trade button is pressed. If you get second thoughts, you owe it to yourself to inform your buyer and cancel the trade.

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Dunnzo wrote:

im curious what the item was?

Was Lori's Lantern. Offer was 8 chaos, 4 fusings, 2 chisels, and 4 scourings. Then someone came around and offered me 6 gcps. I trade GCPs at 2.5, so it was an equal offer, basically.

As for everyone else in the thread, why do you guys keep comparing this to real life? What happens on the internet has nothing to do with real life. In real life, this situation would not have happened. In real life, you don't have "orbs" or "mixed" currency. If someone offers me a 100 bucks for something, compared to someone who offers me 50 American, 20 Canadian, 5 Pounds, and 20 Australian, of course I'm not going to accept their offer when someone else comes along and says they'll just give me a pure 100. I'm not interested in trading again and trying to get rid of the other currency (tantamount to going to a bank and exchanging currency).

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Evlesoa wrote:

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Dunnzo wrote:

im curious what the item was?

Was Lori's Lantern. Offer was 8 chaos, 4 fusings, 2 chisels, and 4 scourings. Then someone came around and offered me 6 gcps. I trade GCPs at 2.5, so it was an equal offer, basically.

As for everyone else in the thread, why do you guys keep comparing this to real life? What happens on the internet has nothing to do with real life. In real life, this situation would not have happened. In real life, you don't have "orbs" or "mixed" currency. If someone offers me a 100 bucks for something, compared to someone who offers me 50 American, 20 Canadian, 5 Pounds, and 20 Australian, of course I'm not going to accept their offer when someone else comes along and says they'll just give me a pure 100. I'm not interested in trading again and trying to get rid of the other currency (tantamount to going to a bank and exchanging currency).

You are dealing with another person, not a scripted NPC.

So what IS the point of the thread again?

You did something that many people frown upon, and the ones you did that to decided to hate you for it.
You did not do something illegal or exploitive (in the game).
At worst you lost some "reputation" that may and may not affect you in the future (perhaps the next item you are buying happens to be from a friend of that person, who then decides to not sell you that item due to this incident).

You are basically asking people to stop hating you for your shitty actions. We are telling you that your actions WILL incite hate and you therefore have no rights to ask people to stop hating on you. Its not like people are hating on you for being different - they hate you because you were a dick to them.

How many times are we supposed to repeat this before you realize that?

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Zealflare wrote:

You are dealing with another person, not a scripted NPC.

So what IS the point of the thread again?

You did something that many people frown upon, and the ones you did that to decided to hate you for it.
You did not do something illegal or exploitive (in the game).
At worst you lost some "reputation" that may and may not affect you in the future (perhaps the next item you are buying happens to be from a friend of that person, who then decides to not sell you that item due to this incident).

You are basically asking people to stop hating you for your shitty actions. We are telling you that your actions WILL incite hate and you therefore have no rights to ask people to stop hating on you. Its not like people are hating on you for being different - they hate you because you were a dick to them.

How many times are we supposed to repeat this before you realize that?

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generaldave wrote:

I feel like this thread was created for self justification of poor trading practices. OP just keeps saying that he or she did not profit any more than if he or she would have gone through with the deal that was already accepted by OP and agreeing with the people that justify his or her practices.

Whether there was further profit or not has nothing to do with the principle of the matter. OP ignores the fact that he or she had entered an agreement with another player and didn't live up to his or her end of the agreement.

Really, there is nothing further to discuss, aside from that I would also like to point out that the OP is contradicting him or herself. The title refers to an event where an agreement was terminated because of a higher offer and now says that there was no higher offer, but the same value in a different currency.

in my opinion, you should feel bad.

having said that, the real problem of trade is people out there do stuff a hell of a lot worse, than cancel a trade at the last second.
and get "filthy rich" doing it.

I'm not filthy rich, though, but the nature of the game itself ("hardcore") is supposed to mean that you take any and all advantage of others. It's exile vs exile, after all, isn't it? Not that I took advantage of anyone, but just saying.

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Evlesoa wrote:

I'm not filthy rich, though, but the nature of the game itself ("hardcore") is supposed to mean that you take any and all advantage of others. It's exile vs exile, after all, isn't it? Not that I took advantage of anyone, but just saying.

That, my friend, is a disgusting view towards others in just about any situation, gaming or not. You should pretty much never set out to take advantage of others. And how do you come up with this definition of hardcore? It's to my understanding that hardcore is meant to be a harder version of the game, not that you take advantage of others...

It's funny @OP, I posted something similar to this a while ago (except I guess mine was more..."name & shame" as you would call it) but the story was the same.

I was selling a freshly found Bringer of Rain. I was getting a ton of PM's and offers, and I finally set my buyout to 5 exalts. This guy PM'd me and offered an eternal + 1 exalt. (Mind you, this is when eternals started to become DIFFICULT to sell for 3 exalts, and it was rare to get 3 for them, this was a little over a week ago maybe) and then after that I had another PM from someone who said he would buy it out for 5 exalts, and he was checking his stash/accounts for the rest of his currency. He was paying me 1 exalt in chaos, (30 chaos, more than an exalt) and 4 pure ex. I prefer chaos over exalts, just because they are really easy to convert to ex and I use them constantly. The other guy PM'd me and I told him that the other dude offered the 5 ex buyout, he was checking to see if he had the currency. I asked if he wanted to counter it, and he said he would pay 5 pure exalts. I told him that someone had already offered, and he was checking if he had it. I said he could outbid him if he wanted (although I said the buyout was 5 exalts, so if he didn't bid more than 5 I was going to sell to the first guy who took the buyout offer) and he said he'd give me 5 pure ex.

I told him that someone had already offered 5 pure, and that he was first. This guy got FURIOUS with me, and started calling me names, saying how "no one would ever trade high level items with me again" and I was going on some "blacklist" apparently that only the secret high level traders know about..lol, and he was being serious. He was like "you said you'd sell to me, you don't back out on a trade blah blah blah" and I tried explaining to him 500 times that the other guy offered first, I TOLD him that. As the other guy was looking to see if he had the 5 exalts, thats when he finally offered me 5 ex...then the other guy (who offered it first, but had to round it all up) pm'd me saying he had it all. I told him he could out bid the person who bid me first, which he didn't.

Now I don't think what I did was wrong. I mean, I set the buyout at 5 exalts..but I wasn't even in a party, and if someone wanted to offer more than 5 exalts and I'm talking at least like an exalt minimum jump, I wouldn't go through all that just for a couple gcp, but I don't think that's a bad thing to do if someone is willing to pay that. Because that just means the item has more value..

I would legitimately feel like an ass though if I was in the trade screen with someone, he was paying the desired buyout I set, and then I declined to go sell somewhere else for like 1-2 gcp more. If you are getting a CONSIDERABLY higher offer, then I mean, what would you do? If you don't have much currency, and you aren't super rich in this game, and you don't ever find items like this..wouldn't you take the higher offer? I would, and I would genuinely apologize and let him outbid if he wanted too. But in that scenario, I think it's okay. There are different scenario's but chivalry in gaming is kind of dead.

I grew up playing games where me and my group of friends would have our different classes/characters, and if we found a sick fucking item for another person in our party we would give it to them, and let them use it. They were "part of the team" so we always helped each other out. Not so to say just share our currency and wealth, but let's say I have a build that is SPECIFIC for Kaoms Heart. If one of my buddies got one of those dropped in the game, they'd hand it over to me since it was for my build and not of use to any of them except for being worth alot. Because it's good karma and what goes around, comes around!

Sorry for the soliloquy - but it is kind of a shame seeing that there really isn't to many genuinely "nice" people that play these type of games anymore. Just willing to give players help, advice, etc. I mean look at it on here when someone tries to ask a question..he gets attacked by 10 trolls in a matter of minutes calling him a moron for not knowing it himself, etc etc. May sound a little cheesy I guess, but to me it makes gaming more enjoyable..but oh well.