Is it really that bad to cancel a trade and accept a higher offer?

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enshin wrote:
All you got in this world is your balls and your word.
Shouldn't matter what someone offered after you joined party to trade with first individual, the trade should still go through with the first buyer.
Cancelling out and leaving to someone else is a fucking bitch move.
grow a pair.


feeling the love Gorlak!

Side note: you're 100% right
Of course there shouldn't be an issue. You didn't do the trade yet.

If someone gets mad about this, that person has something wrong.
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NCPereira wrote:
Of course there shouldn't be an issue. You didn't do the trade yet.

If someone gets mad about this, that person has something wrong.





I think the issue involves


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Thoughts on it?

I just got some butt-hurt replies after I accepted a trade and cancelled on them because I got a better offer (unexpectedly). Am I supposed to be having a guilt trip because of this? Lol. Just curious about what others have experienced and how they feel about it.




OP accepted the trade, not the item itself, through the gentlemen deal. You have to keep your word for it since it is part of the trust system of trading. Sure, you can pull the same move that OP, the other side cannot do jack, but it is a good indication that OP cannot make up his/her mind. Why accept the trade, if you are going to weasel your way out.



All of this could had been avoided if OP........was less impulsive. Either way, whether or not that other person has done something wrong, I can certainly understand the anger behind it. I find what OP did was WRONG. It is plain simple. You are not going to change my mind, and you are not going to change those that also believe what OP did was wrong. This all falls under morality.
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- raics, 06.08.2016

Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Oct 12, 2013, 8:16:49 PM
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Farandine wrote:
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thenewapollo wrote:
you don´t follow a CERTAIN set of priciples, which many others do.

Yes, I do. They just aren't principles that you agree with.

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i for example treat ¨random guys¨ with the equal respect id like to receive

I, too treat random guys with the amount of respect that I expect from them, which is friendly, open discussion of the trade.
I've been Buyer #1 in this situation, and when the guy PMed me and said he got a better offer, since he was polite and timely I just said "No problem, man" and got on with my life.
But you missed my point. The random Craigslist guy is the seller, not the buyer. As the buyer you shouldn't have any preconceptions about this complete stranger unless you believe that your own trading principles ENTITLE you to reciprocation.

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if you´d follow some of the reasoning mentioned earlier in this thread, then you´d only see a great opportunity.

And no, I wouldn't push the button. Even looking at it from a non emotional perspective (which is not something I often do in real life) it would be a bad deal. Everlasting guilt (huge negative utility) in return for money, when I have all I need and which always has diminishing returns? No deal.


the word CERTAIN, look it up.....
apparently we are in agreement.
nice discussion, and a nice weekend to you!
Last edited by thenewapollo#6906 on Oct 12, 2013, 8:29:43 PM
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JohnNamikaze wrote:
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NCPereira wrote:
Of course there shouldn't be an issue. You didn't do the trade yet.

If someone gets mad about this, that person has something wrong.





I think the issue involves


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Thoughts on it?

I just got some butt-hurt replies after I accepted a trade and cancelled on them because I got a better offer (unexpectedly). Am I supposed to be having a guilt trip because of this? Lol. Just curious about what others have experienced and how they feel about it.




OP accepted the trade, not the item itself, through the gentlemen deal. You have to keep your word for it since it is part of the trust system of trading. Sure, you can pull the same move that OP, the other side cannot do jack, but it is a good indication that OP cannot make up his/her mind. Why accept the trade, if you are going to weasel your way out.



All of this could had been avoided if OP........was less impulsive. Either way, whether or not that other person has done something wrong, I can certainly understand the anger behind it. I find what OP did was WRONG. It is plain simple. You are not going to change my mind, and you are not going to change those that also believe what OP did was wrong. This all falls under morality.


If I'm looking for a trade, I'm always looking for the best offer.

If I'm going to make a trade because no one else gave a better offer, and suddenly that better offers shows up, I'm certainly going to take it.
I'm in an abusive relationship with life. It keeps beating the hell out of me and I'm too cowardly to leave it.

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NCPereira wrote:
If I'm looking for a trade, I'm always looking for the best offer.

If I'm going to make a trade because no one else gave a better offer, and suddenly that better offers shows up, I'm certainly going to take it.




Everyone is always looking for the best offer, that is normal. If that better offer happens to appear the moment you are about to trade, once you agreed to the deal, you either stick through the original deal, or lie that you lost interest in buying/selling the item(s) (nothing wrong with doubting yourself right before clicking Accept). Just avoid mentioning that you found a better deal to the person you about to trade to, that is equivalent to a slap on the face. It will hurt the other person.
Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
- raics, 06.08.2016

Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Oct 12, 2013, 8:38:21 PM
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JohnNamikaze wrote:
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NCPereira wrote:
If I'm looking for a trade, I'm always looking for the best offer.

If I'm going to make a trade because no one else gave a better offer, and suddenly that better offers shows up, I'm certainly going to take it.




Everyone is always looking for the best offer, that is normal. If that better offer happens to appear the moment you are about to trade, once you agreed to the deal, you either stick through the original deal, or lie that you lost interest in buying/selling the item(s) (nothing wrong with doubting yourself right before clicking Accept). Just avoid mentioning that you found a better deal to the person you about to trade to, that is equivalent to a slap on the face. It will hurt the other person.


What about "Someone else gave me a better offer, would you like to counter?"
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NCPereira wrote:
What about "Someone else gave me a better offer, would you like to counter?"



In the case when the buyer is not you, he either have no choice but to counter it, still hold the same value (believes that you are intentionally raising the price, you would need evidence to prove it), or give up.


In the case when the buyer is you, you better hope he takes the bait by making an even better offer, or you just move on to another seller since you cannot pull the same stunt unless it was legitimate, and you somehow got late to the better offer.







Back to your post, it is acceptable to say that since you are still giving a chance to the other individual. You are not throwing that individual under the bus by saying that.
Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
- raics, 06.08.2016

Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Oct 12, 2013, 9:08:34 PM
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NCPereira wrote:

If I'm looking for a trade, I'm always looking for the best offer.

If I'm going to make a trade because no one else gave a better offer, and suddenly that better offers shows up, I'm certainly going to take it.


That's the spirit, lad! It's not all about more, it's all about the "better."
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