Revamped Weaver Fight

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Septile wrote:

The problem with creating more dynamic boss fights is that boss runs become extremely tedious.

I hope this is sarcasm taken to new levels.

The moment you place something like a ledge run or a boss run over compelling gameplay in general, you have failed at game design.

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Septile wrote:

Nobody does boss runs in D3.

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lethal_papercut wrote:

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Septile wrote:

Nobody does boss runs in D3.

WTH are you talking about? I don't know about the current meta but when I played ppl did Butcher runs & Azmodan runs but always after getting 5NV stacks. The reason you didn't just do boss runs tho was because of the the way the Nephalem Valor worked, once you had 5stacks you got just as much loot from champs as you did the boss. It had nothing to do with dynamic boss fights, it was all to do with NV & finding loot.

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SlixSC wrote:

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Weaver also doesn't hit any harder just because it's a race (unless it's a special race, and then of course it doesn't apply exclusively to weaver), if you choose to rush it unprepared, sucks for you.

People will still do 2h turbo races, some people even do BLAMT (and that shit is downright retarded, at least for melee). Short term racers also have very little to complain about judging by the extraordinary amount and decent variety of races.

I'm not a short term racer/rusher, but if I did take part in them, even the prospect of this buffed weaver seems to pale in comparison to some other things. Do you think weaver is suddenly going to go from one of the weakest bosses in the game to the strongest, outright?

I mean, as a soloing 2h melee, I know what actual turbo merciless (60%) vaal is like (doable), amongst other things. Unless weaver is buffed ridiculously, to be about 2x as damaging, tougher, faster it will still be quite alright. Apart from that, we have no idea about damage or additional changes that go with it, maybe the EK stuff isn't too damaging, maybe weaver hits less hard, not impossible.

At the very least, it's a more interesting prospect that could be balanced reasonably, maybe it will be overtuned, maybe it won't. Can't really say without trying.

You are making inherent assumptions about something you don't understand. What would be the point in me arguing with someone who doesn't even know what they are talking about? This is absolutely pointless.

Races don't need to be harder, what makes races harder are the mods. Buff endgame bosses all you want, but leave mid-act bosses the way they are. Most players only have to do this boss fight 3x per character outside of maps, so the boss being weak really has no impact on their experience of the game at all. Whereas racers have to fight this boss up to 5 times a day, so their opinions should have priority over everyone else's opinion.