This is getting a bit ridiculous... Reflect Damage Bug from Patch 11.1

of course it will be slow and boring.

you should already know that if you attempt a map with reflect mods, Temporal Chains, Vulnerability etc' - you'll need to play slowly and carefully or you'll die.

you can't possibly expect to have the same clear-speed in such crazy maps, and simply taking out the gems isn't always enough.
you may need a shield.
you may need gear specific for countering that map.
you may need to go back to town and switch equipment once you see what mobs spawned.
you'll obviously need a more tactical approach to every battle.

personally, I despise reflect altogether. but it's something GGG decided to go with, and made it pretty insane sometimes - so we'll need to adapt tactically, instead of trying to brute-force-crack the very obscure math behind it.

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johnKeys wrote:

EDIT: also, the only way Enfeeble can possibly affect reflection - is if there is a chance for a reflection to crit. if so, this is an extremely bad concept and needs to change immediately.

read it again. I edited it.

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal wrote:

SLAMMED

I was 100% sure this was all in your head, and it was never so. No one ever evaded or blocked reflect, or had enfeeble reduce it.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

You hit the monster for some amount of damage, affected by the monster's mitigation. 20% of the damage it actually took is reflected back to you, and affected by your mitigation.

Reflected damage is the same kinds of damage as your initial hit. If you hit with a spell, then the reflected damage is unevadable and only blockable by spell block. If you hit with an attack, it's evadable and regularly blockable, etc.

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal wrote:

STILL LMAO AT THIS PURE EPIC SLAM

Me too bud... me too.

I didnt get verbally molested, shut down and slammed by a game developer using a few sentences in a thread where I called everybody ignorant, did I?

No, that was you. And I'm pretty sure you cried a little LEL

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal wrote:

I didnt get verbally molested, shut down and slammed by a game developer using a few sentences in a thread where I called everybody ignorant, did I?

No, that was you. And I'm pretty sure you cried a little LEL

I didn't get a raging boner when a GGG Dev posted causing me to lose all sense, write a raging boner wall of nonsense, and make false claims causing me to be slammed by another player... did I?

No, that was you.

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal wrote:

STILL LMAO AT THIS PURE EPIC SLAM

lol

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal wrote:

reflects physical damage, EK is affected and bear traps too afaik.

vulnerability / pw makes you take more damage

Just a FYI.
You don't take more reflect damage from projectile weakness. Reflected damage is just damage, not a projectile.

Also when I was talking about enfeeble and monster damage modifiers affecting reflect, I was going by what I know from CB. I'm not only the CB tester that thought enfeeble still affected reflected damage:

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Balguez wrote:

I can't show you a dev post, but I'm 100% sure enfeeble and inc. monster dmg, from map or from a rare, effects reflect damage.

I play chars with a weak spot to reflect since CB.

Also why are you still posting in this thread runeboy? You said you were going to stop like 4 thread pages ago.

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Sodomee wrote:

Just a FYI.
You don't take more reflect damage from projectile weakness. Reflected damage is just damage, not a projectile.

lmao, bow attacks and spells are projectiles but physical or elemental. herp derp

keep failing, dude ... thats about the dumbest thing i heard so far in this entire forum

' i dont need advice scrub, i'm a god who knows it all since closed beta ' bla bla bla

fucking hell, i can t play anymore since the last patched, wtf is appening to relfect damages? even life leech can t keep up

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JahIthBerTirUmMalLumKoKoMal wrote:

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Sodomee wrote:

Just a FYI.
You don't take more reflect damage from projectile weakness. Reflected damage is just damage, not a projectile.

lmao, bow attacks and spells are projectiles but physical or elemental. herp derp

keep failing, dude ... thats about the dumbest thing i heard so far in this entire forum

' i dont need advice scrub, i'm a god who knows it all since closed beta ' bla bla bla

Bow attacks and spells ARE projectiles.

The damage reflected from the projectiles, regardless of damage type, is NOT a projectile. It is just damage.

This is why vulnerability on you increases physical damage reflected onto you, but projectile weakness will not increase the reflected damage unless the projectile weakness curse is on the monster reflecting the damage.

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Sodomee wrote:

I have 2.4k life, 18k armour after granite, 39% block, 4.5k physical dps(after removing all my support gems except multistrike), and 537% Crit Damage.

How on earth is that even possible? My 1h mara (I don't play him often so he is only lvl82) has more than twice of your armor with almost no uniques.

I have 3,2k life (without koam's of course)
23k armor (without granite flask) >34k armor with a normal granite flask and way over 40k with a granite flask of iron skin
54% block (no bringer of rain)
10,5 k dps (heavy strike) and about 4k dps (cleave)
All resists are 77 except chaos is 75 and I haven't removed a single dps support gem!

There has to be something terribly wrong with your build. If you post it I'll try to tell you where the mistakes are. Or just check out my build:

I run 6 auras plus tempest shield - that's why there is a way of int nodes leading towards inner circle (they will be the next 3 points).
on life: discipline, anger, wrath and grace
on mana: hatred, determination and tempest shield
Further to level 90:
Then I will spend 4 points for 2 more endurance charges and 2 times + endiurance charge duration and a last point in arcane efficiency. After that the core build of this char is completed. You can spend every point beyond lvl90 in dps, life or whatever you want.
I will go for block and armor so my final build will be:

IMPORTANT: You really need to have 2% manaleech on your gear or you will run out of mana all the time while running that much auras. I'm still running out of mana sometimes but no problem since I carry a mana potion with me (more mana over a longer period of time).

The damage of this build is low but and the other hand I do not even care about double reflect maps.

You dont take damage from reflect because your damage is pretty ridiculous, 666tnt666

Maybe damage reduction is bugged? or something with armor? GGG plz check this.