We need an actual AH (yes another time)

Current trading is trash because you have to leave the game to do it and use 3rd party tools for price look up.

If the game cannot deliver basic functionality - the game is not complete. Since this is early access, there is time to make the game in a way that we do not need to download 3rd party tools and LEAVE the game to PLAY the game.

You dont need an AH with an actual loot system tailored to the player itself. Oh wait, the hardcore PoE fanbase dont want that. They want to spend hours after work or in the basement from working out drooling over a website marketplace, looking for stuff to buy for their build.

Nah, you all can keep that garbage design alive.

The system is perfectly fine. Dont add an AH - just look at how that destroys other ARPGs.

For example Diablo 3 - the only thing it lead to was ppl suddenly beeing able to get the best possible gear in lower levels pretty much destroying the whole leveling and looting process since it was just too easy and practical to use it.

There is always a fine balance in Loot/Crafting ARPGs - if its too easy it can actually destroy big parts of a game. Also i dont get the OPs problem with the site - its easy to use - and i also prefer such a solution to any ingame AH.

I'm not against the idea per se but I've never minded the trading system for PoE. Quite the opposite since it's very D2 with some bells and whistles that is the trade site and third party programs like Awakened PoE Trade that we use in the first game.

A lot of my tolerance and acceptance of the state of trade is that the community took part in coming together and is largely responsible for the fact that we have a trade site to begin with. I've used it since its inception when it was just poe.trade. An API tool built by the community and eventually adapted by GGG because trade used to be... much worse. I don't want to sound crazy but an AH seems like that would sort of invalidate the effort that many of us appreciate and continue to appreciate from those members of the community that took the initiative and succeeded in getting us what we have now.

On another level, personally, I like that if I accidentally mispriced something and get 50 whispers in a minute I know that it's probably listed way too cheap and I need to double check. I don't agree that people need to have your item as soon as they click the button. And yeah people would say, well make sure to double check before you put it up. And to that I say, I don't have to worry about that now, why would I want to worry about that in the future? Maybe we could add a setting that requires seller to confirm the sale before the item is released but we would probably have a similar issue of non-responsive traders. I don't really think that's an issue that needs solved. If people don't want to respond, they don't have to. It's annoying but it is what it is.

Sure trade isn't perfect, and it doesn't need to be. However I trust that whether GGG does implement an AH in the future or not it'll be fine.

Holy shit if you dont want an auction house to destroy the 💫✨ campaign experience 💫✨ then just unlock it in the endgame.

Done.

One solution would be if u get X amount of whispers off an item and u dont sell it, like price fixer, the item gets delistend, if u do it with many items all your items get delisted and u have to put them manually back in

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One solution would be if u get X amount of whispers off an item and u dont sell it, like price fixer, the item gets delistend, if u do it with many items all your items get delisted and u have to put them manually back in

Yeah that seems like a step in a good direction. If you mispriced something you're going to relist it at a different price manually anyway. Price fixers are doing something malicious so if there's something we can do to make it inconvenient for them to to so without hindering the rest of the players that would be good too.

Bottom line, this is more a technical thing than a choice people.

The question shouldn't be 'is this the best idea?'

The question is "Does this work within the setup that GGG has for the game, and will it detract from dev to shoehorn one in?"

If the answer is yes and yes, then we stick with what we have, they can work on that once the game isn't a giant steaming pile of overtuned crap.

If the answer is yes and no, then yea, why not, no down sides to better community interaction.

If the answer is no and anything, then it's moot.

At the end of the day, GGG needs to answer the viability question, before we hash out stuff like this.

SO... GGG... Viability on the concept? Or does this fall outside what you can do with the game's code?

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Saf3tyhazard#3440 wrote:

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One solution would be if u get X amount of whispers off an item and u dont sell it, like price fixer, the item gets delistend, if u do it with many items all your items get delisted and u have to put them manually back in

Yeah that seems like a step in a good direction. If you mispriced something you're going to relist it at a different price manually anyway. Price fixers are doing something malicious so if there's something we can do to make it inconvenient for them to to so without hindering the rest of the players that would be good too.

How would they delist you item when its in a the tab which is listed to everything in that tab is going 1 exalt, are they gone delist the hole tab? just that item? how would that work? people have quad tabs as they dump stuff into it and make the tab 1 exalt something.

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Bottom line, this is more a technical thing than a choice people.

The question shouldn't be 'is this the best idea?'

The question is "Does this work within the setup that GGG has for the game, and will it detract from dev to shoehorn one in?"

If the answer is yes and yes, then we stick with what we have, they can work on that once the game isn't a giant steaming pile of overtuned crap.

If the answer is yes and no, then yea, why not, no down sides to better community interaction.

If the answer is no and anything, then it's moot.

At the end of the day, GGG needs to answer the viability question, before we hash out stuff like this.

SO... GGG... Viability on the concept? Or does this fall outside what you can do with the game's code?

The main issue isn't one of community sentiment or possibility of development. It's GGG's philosophy. They are the ones against an AH. If that doesn't change it doesn't matter what any of us think, it's going to be the way they want it to be. I'm not saying that will never change but they've got a track record of sticking to their guns on that one. HOWEVER, the introduction of the currency exchange seems to indicate we have a better possibility of seeing something like that in the future than we ever have. However slippery that slope is remains to be seen.