Listening to the whiners opened Pandora's box

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Who's forcing you to complain so much about a game until devs give in and let you no brain without having to engage with the game?

Isn't that the root of the issue in the first place?
"PoE1 veterans" who just one-click zoomed on other people's builds for a decade without ever engaging with or learning any of the mechanics of it, and now that they had to try on their own for 4 days they bitched so much that the devs actually made the game trivial?

Check my posts and tell me where I'm the one complaining about the game. You'll see me state multiple times I'm enjoying it but some things need work. What I'm doing is trying to keep the handful of you whiners from misrepresenting things. GGG made the change based on data, stop crying and either play something else of find things you do still enjoy about the game and focus on those. You've been crying for over a day now, GGG has been dropping hotfixes with hours of certain things coming to light.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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MaxW81#9965 wrote:

In which world is this game trivial? If you think so I will enjoy you see you race with Ben and other god gamers soon.

https://ibb.co/JBLw7t7

Boss drops in act 1 (Yes, all bosses, even minor map bosses, looked like this so far)

https://youtu.be/MpFYIYxoc50

This is my gear at level 10.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Who's forcing you to complain so much about a game until devs give in and let you no brain without having to engage with the game?

Isn't that the root of the issue in the first place?
"PoE1 veterans" who just one-click zoomed on other people's builds for a decade without ever engaging with or learning any of the mechanics of it, and now that they had to try on their own for 4 days they bitched so much that the devs actually made the game trivial?

Check my posts and tell me where I'm the one complaining about the game. You'll see me state multiple times I'm enjoying it but some things need work. What I'm doing is trying to keep the handful of you whiners from misrepresenting things. GGG made the change based on data, stop crying and either play something else of find things you do still enjoy about the game and focus on those. You've been crying for over a day now, GGG has been dropping hotfixes with hours of certain things coming to light.

I have been DEFENDING the game as it was FROM people who were demanding it to change. They made the game they wanted already, because that's how they released it, yet all the bitching compelled them to give in and change it [Removed by Support]

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anremy#7276 wrote:

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auspexa#1404 wrote:

this game went downhill real fast lmao

whenever I click a stream it's some one button deadeye build running at light speed, one shotting the entire screen and getting 20 items from one big pack

idk how the game can be in such a terrible state after going through multiple closed beta tests. genuinely don't understand why they decided to separate poe 2 if it's going to be the same shit

i hope they either stop listening to the powercreep hungry cookie-clicker 1-shot farmbots, or have a ruthless mode with all the challenge and moment to moment gameplay depth that path of exile 2 was intended to have. stuff like this shouldn't be possible https://youtu.be/4amI6glez9U but we're still in early access, so there is hope.

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TheAlmightyZugs#5016 wrote:

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anremy#7276 wrote:

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auspexa#1404 wrote:

this game went downhill real fast lmao

whenever I click a stream it's some one button deadeye build running at light speed, one shotting the entire screen and getting 20 items from one big pack

idk how the game can be in such a terrible state after going through multiple closed beta tests. genuinely don't understand why they decided to separate poe 2 if it's going to be the same shit

i hope they either stop listening to the powercreep hungry cookie-clicker 1-shot farmbots, or have a ruthless mode with all the challenge and moment to moment gameplay depth that path of exile 2 was intended to have. stuff like this shouldn't be possible https://youtu.be/4amI6glez9U but we're still in early access, so there is hope.

I'm also banking on this. I hope they just revert back with some updates and not get pushed around by the criers. It is EA so I hope they learn their lesson and it's just growing pains with these latest decisions. I always had faith in GGG, but getting a bit worried not going to lie. It seems to be the biggest test of a Gaming Company as well tbh. Do they fold when the casuals and POE 1 trolls complain? Or do they stick to their vision, have faith in it and allow the game to be great?

We don't need another POE 1. Let POE 1 be POE 1 and let POE 2 become POE 2. They should have separate identities, and that identity doesn't have to be for the masses of masses. Elden Ring is a great game for example, challenging, punishing and frustrating at times. Not everyone likes that type of game but it sold well did it not? It's a great game isn't it? And it's loved by countless people and was a tremendous success for FromSoftware. What would have happened if they listened to the people saying the game was too hard and had never played a Souls Like before? Because there were a ton of them. It would have failed. Miserably. You can't hit all the checkboxes and you shouldn't. Too many boxes and the game is washed out. It needs to know what it try's to be and be that. Too many gaming companies are trying to hit all of the boxes and please everyone. You simply cannot do that if you want to be successful.

I just don't want to see that for POE 2. They need to decide if the game is a top down, dark and hardcore, gritty Souls esque* type of game - Or a literal D3 or D4 clone. Cause that's what it's feeling like. At launch it felt near perfect. I agreed that we needed a bit more loot etc and other things needed tweaking but difficulty was the main thing that had me just having such a fun time. Now, I'm really not having fun. If I want to play POE 1 - I'll just play it. Loading up today, I feel unchallenged and bored.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

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Mr_Vagtastic#4761 wrote:

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

Who's forcing you to complain so much about a game until devs give in and let you no brain without having to engage with the game?

Isn't that the root of the issue in the first place?
"PoE1 veterans" who just one-click zoomed on other people's builds for a decade without ever engaging with or learning any of the mechanics of it, and now that they had to try on their own for 4 days they bitched so much that the devs actually made the game trivial?

Check my posts and tell me where I'm the one complaining about the game. You'll see me state multiple times I'm enjoying it but some things need work. What I'm doing is trying to keep the handful of you whiners from misrepresenting things. GGG made the change based on data, stop crying and either play something else of find things you do still enjoy about the game and focus on those. You've been crying for over a day now, GGG has been dropping hotfixes with hours of certain things coming to light.

I have been DEFENDING the game as it was FROM people who were demanding it to change and saying "only tourists like this game" and "it is too difficult", and stating that I like it, while being called a tourist for it.

They made the game they wanted already, because that's how they released it, yet all the bitching compelled them to give in and change it, and now that you've forced your will on both GGG and those who enjoyed the game, you spin it so that the ones who say the change was not necessary are the whiners?

What a pathetic pile of poop.

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TheAlmightyZugs#5016 wrote:

I have been DEFENDING the game as it was FROM people who were demanding it to change and saying "only tourists like this game" and "it is too difficult", and stating that I like it, while being called a tourist for it.

They made the game they wanted already, because that's how they released it, yet all the bitching compelled them to give in and change it, and now that you've forced your will on both GGG and those who enjoyed the game, you spin it so that the ones who say the change was not necessary are the whiners?

What a pathetic pile of poop.