Listening to the whiners opened Pandora's box

It seems like the "There is no loot in this game" and "Bosses too hard" crowd (most of who, I assume, haven't even played a single hour of this game, and only jumped on the complain train) has won.

I just reached the graveyard in act 1 on an alt, and have 5 Orbs of Transmutation + Augmentation each, 3 Regal Orbs and 1 Exalt Orb.

Every boss (I fought 4 until now) dropped 1-2 yellows and 1-2 blues on top of 1-2 skill gems each.

The game is even more trivial now than it was before.
Every single one of my minion one-shots trashmobs (including even the Skeletal Warriors from the sceptre), and bosses die in very few seconds.
I can't even Contagion + Essence Drain, because the entire mob pack is dead before I can click the 2nd spell.

And it's not even the reduced difficulty itself that worries me so, but the fact that they opened Pandora's box. They gave in now, but the complainers will never stop asking for more ridiculous demands each time.

Do you think they will stop here? Of course not.
It will be "still too difficult", and after the next nerf, it will be "still too difficult", because those demands weren't based on reason or experience in the first place.

This was a step in the wrong direction. I genuinely hope they revert it.

And yes, of course I understand that the reason they complain about "difficulty" isn't that it's difficult per se, but that they have to engage with it more than just skipping it in the first place.

They don't even want the game. They're complaining about not being able to skip half of it, and no-backbone-GGG decided to give in.

The blatant disregard for the campaign GGG put god knows how many hours into is saddening.

EDIT:

https://ibb.co/JBLw7t7

Do you find this to be reasonable drops at level 10?
And yes, all bosses looked like this, even minor map bosses.

https://youtu.be/MpFYIYxoc50

This is my gear at level 10.

EDIT:

They always move the goalpost because they never had a point to begin with.

They say the campaign is too hard.
When you show them evidence it's not, they'll dismiss it and say "come back when you're done with maps", or "look how much money I spent on supporter packs, therefore I am correct" (lol?)

They say the loot is too little.
When you show them evidence it's not, they'll say you're just lucky.

They complain about minion witch (of all classes).
When you show them evidence that minions are good and offer help, they'll reject it, and say you're just using OP stuff.

They say that we are "sweaty hardcore players wanting to gatekeep".
When you show them that the "difficulty" they mean is bosses that melt down in 5 seconds due to the busted gear we're showered with, they'll come up with another bullshit reason or excuse why you're actually wrong.

You can't have a reasonable discussion with them, because to them it's not about finding out the truth.
They're trolls.

You can give them all the help and show them all the evidence that and why their point is incorrect, and the only thing they will do is move the goalpost.

And this is why GGG has opened the door for people to seek to ruin a wonderful game. Because their demands are never going to stop. You give them this, and they'll want more. They'll always move the goalpost.
Last edited by Fae_Lyth#6750 on Dec 12, 2024, 6:04:42 PM
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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:
It seems like the "There is no loot in this game" and "Bosses too hard" crowd (most of who, I assume, haven't even played a single hour of this game, and only jumped on the complain train) has won.

I just reached the graveyard in act 1 on an alt, and have 5 Orbs of Transmutation + Augmentation each, 3 Regal Orbs and 1 Exalt Orb.

Every boss (I fought 4 until now) dropped 1-2 yellows and 1-2 blues on top of 1-2 skill gems each.

The game is even more trivial now than it was before.
Every single one of my minion one-shots trashmobs (including even the Skeletal Warriors from the sceptre), and bosses die in very few seconds.
I can't even Contagion + Essence Drain, because the entire mob pack is dead before I can click the 2nd spell.

And it's not even the reduced difficulty itself that worries me so, but the fact that they opened Pandora's box. They gave in now, but the complainers will never stop asking for more ridiculous demands each time.

This was a step in the wrong direction. I genuinely hope they revert it.


O wow really? You're getting super duper lucky on your drops then! You should probably consider that in heavy RNG games like PoE some people's experiences are vastly different!
this game went downhill real fast lmao

whenever I click a stream it's some one button deadeye build running at light speed, one shotting the entire screen and getting 20 items from one big pack

idk how the game can be in such a terrible state after going through multiple closed beta tests. genuinely don't understand why they decided to separate poe 2 if it's going to be the same shit
"buff grenades"

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Last edited by auspexa#1404 on Dec 11, 2024, 4:57:55 PM
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auspexa#1404 wrote:
this game went downhill real fast lmao

whenever I click a stream it's some one button deadeye build running at light speed, one shotting the entire screen and getting 20 items from one big pack

idk how the game can be in such a terrible state after going through multiple closed beta tests. genuinely don't understand why they decided to separate poe 2 if it's going to be the same shit


A loud minority whined, and GGG gave in.
Last edited by Fae_Lyth#6750 on Dec 11, 2024, 4:58:46 PM
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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:
It seems like the "There is no loot in this game" and "Bosses too hard" crowd (most of who, I assume, haven't even played a single hour of this game, and only jumped on the complain train) has won.

I just reached the graveyard in act 1 on an alt, and have 5 Orbs of Transmutation + Augmentation each, 3 Regal Orbs and 1 Exalt Orb.

Every boss (I fought 4 until now) dropped 1-2 yellows and 1-2 blues on top of 1-2 skill gems each.

The game is even more trivial now than it was before.
Every single one of my minion one-shots trashmobs (including even the Skeletal Warriors from the sceptre), and bosses die in very few seconds.
I can't even Contagion + Essence Drain, because the entire mob pack is dead before I can click the 2nd spell.

And it's not even the reduced difficulty itself that worries me so, but the fact that they opened Pandora's box. They gave in now, but the complainers will never stop asking for more ridiculous demands each time.

This was a step in the wrong direction. I genuinely hope they revert it.


Played a full day every day since launch. Loot is in need of improvement, by how much I don’t know but it’s not good and in the forthcoming update they’ll be dealing with outliers (like yourself on the high end and those upset on the low end)
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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:
It seems like the "There is no loot in this game" and "Bosses too hard" crowd (most of who, I assume, haven't even played a single hour of this game, and only jumped on the complain train) has won.

I just reached the graveyard in act 1 on an alt, and have 5 Orbs of Transmutation + Augmentation each, 3 Regal Orbs and 1 Exalt Orb.

Every boss (I fought 4 until now) dropped 1-2 yellows and 1-2 blues on top of 1-2 skill gems each.

The game is even more trivial now than it was before.
Every single one of my minion one-shots trashmobs (including even the Skeletal Warriors from the sceptre), and bosses die in very few seconds.
I can't even Contagion + Essence Drain, because the entire mob pack is dead before I can click the 2nd spell.

And it's not even the reduced difficulty itself that worries me so, but the fact that they opened Pandora's box. They gave in now, but the complainers will never stop asking for more ridiculous demands each time.

Do you think they will stop here? Of course not.
It will be "still too difficult", and after the next nerf, it will be "still too difficult", because those demands weren't based on reason or experience in the first place.

This was a step in the wrong direction. I genuinely hope they revert it.


You've read the forum and your takeaway is that its one sided? there's people arguing on both sides so does that not mean the right answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Don't be so dramatic being worried this early on about the game It's been less than a week. Calm down lad.
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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:
It seems like the "There is no loot in this game" and "Bosses too hard" crowd (most of who, I assume, haven't even played a single hour of this game, and only jumped on the complain train) has won.

I just reached the graveyard in act 1 on an alt, and have 5 Orbs of Transmutation + Augmentation each, 3 Regal Orbs and 1 Exalt Orb.

Every boss (I fought 4 until now) dropped 1-2 yellows and 1-2 blues on top of 1-2 skill gems each.

The game is even more trivial now than it was before.
Every single one of my minion one-shots trashmobs (including even the Skeletal Warriors from the sceptre), and bosses die in very few seconds.
I can't even Contagion + Essence Drain, because the entire mob pack is dead before I can click the 2nd spell.

And it's not even the reduced difficulty itself that worries me so, but the fact that they opened Pandora's box. They gave in now, but the complainers will never stop asking for more ridiculous demands each time.

Do you think they will stop here? Of course not.
It will be "still too difficult", and after the next nerf, it will be "still too difficult", because those demands weren't based on reason or experience in the first place.

This was a step in the wrong direction. I genuinely hope they revert it.


You've read the forum and your takeaway is that its one sided? there's people arguing on both sides so does that not mean the right answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Don't be so dramatic being worried this early on about the game It's been less than a week. Calm down lad.


Well, my point is that I hope that they revert these needless buffs that are showering level 6 characters in yellow gear.
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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:
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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:
It seems like the "There is no loot in this game" and "Bosses too hard" crowd (most of who, I assume, haven't even played a single hour of this game, and only jumped on the complain train) has won.

I just reached the graveyard in act 1 on an alt, and have 5 Orbs of Transmutation + Augmentation each, 3 Regal Orbs and 1 Exalt Orb.

Every boss (I fought 4 until now) dropped 1-2 yellows and 1-2 blues on top of 1-2 skill gems each.

The game is even more trivial now than it was before.
Every single one of my minion one-shots trashmobs (including even the Skeletal Warriors from the sceptre), and bosses die in very few seconds.
I can't even Contagion + Essence Drain, because the entire mob pack is dead before I can click the 2nd spell.

And it's not even the reduced difficulty itself that worries me so, but the fact that they opened Pandora's box. They gave in now, but the complainers will never stop asking for more ridiculous demands each time.

Do you think they will stop here? Of course not.
It will be "still too difficult", and after the next nerf, it will be "still too difficult", because those demands weren't based on reason or experience in the first place.

This was a step in the wrong direction. I genuinely hope they revert it.


You've read the forum and your takeaway is that its one sided? there's people arguing on both sides so does that not mean the right answer is probably somewhere in the middle. Don't be so dramatic being worried this early on about the game It's been less than a week. Calm down lad.


Well, my point is that I hope that they revert these needless buffs that are showering level 6 characters in yellow gear.


Less than a week. And the only thing I feel showered in is people's panic posting on this forum. GGG know what they are doing, let them cook.
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My entire guild loved the experience of getting to maps and higher levels, and were planning on doing all characters before our review.

Either way, on our latest characters we weren't even done with act 1 and had a dozen regals and exalts. Absolutely absurd.

If they do the same level of adjustment a handful more times, we will have 7 years of PoE power creep in 7 weekends.

GGG folded so hard lmao
Grinding Gear Games? More like Participation Trophy Games.
I love the idea of an act boss being to hard and having to re-farm the beautiful areas.

If PoE2 released with JUST ACT 1, I would play it for years. I love it that much. I felt the same about PoE1, I felt the same about D2. Look at my supporter badges. PoE could be the ONLY GAME I WOULD EVER PLAY! I wish with all my heart GGG will do the right thing and I can finally lay D2 to rest. They had a chance with PoE1 and blew it. Briefly revived with Ruthless.

GGG has to walk a fine line here, and given their track record with PoE1 I'm understandably anxious.
Last edited by Kaboinglefop#0955 on Dec 11, 2024, 5:08:44 PM
I haven't finished the campaign yet, so far with the exception of Act 2 the game didn't seem difficult to me. But the lack of loot makes it boring as hell.

I'd be fine to have a difficulty buff to compensate, but there needs to be more loot. An ARPG without exciting loot is just depressing.

I'm running on absolute dogshit gear, and while my build is performing fine, the lack of cool items to find, upgrade and wear is a major turn off.

People like you need to understand that loot is fundamental to an ARPG. When loot is not exciting you're missing 1/3 of what makes an ARPG fun.

PS: stop with this childish "everyone who disagrees with me is a minority", it's such a stupid take imo. It might very well be, but until you have any shred of proof of either side you're literally making shit up. Besides, if those people really were a minority, GGG (who has far more accurate data than you do) would've probably not made any changes.
Last edited by Felix44#4475 on Dec 11, 2024, 5:12:00 PM

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