Diablo 3 and this Game - What's the Difference?

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RodHull wrote:

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Zeltak wrote:

To quickly point out what he meant by white items RodHull was that they are valuable in PoE, if you say would find a six or five linked item. These are sometimes even more valuable than strong rare items. There is not a single white item in Diablo 3 that is usable for any end-game purpose.

That actual item doesn't become valuable or usable until you use ALOT of orbs on it though, which is DIRECTLY comparable with the blacksmith crafting system in D3. Sorry hes wrong and you attempting to cover for him doesn't change that. There is a fundamental difference in that POE keeps the same dynamic that D2 had, except it replaces the horadric cube with the orb system.

I stopped reading your post because you either lied in your first paragraph or don't understand how orbs work. it shows you are not being objective and are skewing data/misleading people in order to support your position.

If I find a good white item with decent implicit mods on it, I can use a single alchemy orb and have a valuable and usable item. I do not have to use 'A LOT' of orbs on it.

Also, ALOT is not a word. But to be fair I have seen many more than you use ALOT in this thread.

Here is a little comic that should help everyone remember that 'ALOT' is not a word.

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html

*shakes head*

Nerds. One would think we're having a debate over constitutional law or something.

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brgillespie wrote:

*shakes head*

Nerds. One would think we're having a debate over constitutional law or something.

Funny you say that since I study law. :D

Oh boy, what a can of worms I opened up with such a simple question lol! personally, I like this game so far. In an odd and strange way, it reminds me of EQ2 in the beginning difficulty... I actually die lmao!! Not like in WoW, Rift, etc... where the game is "easy." I like the dark theme and music. The only thing that I have no real clue about is the passive skill tree. I suppose I'm "trying" to make a build that kind of makes sense for the toon I'm playing; mage was thinking of giving int, crit, mana regen and mabe shield power. Is this correct?? Does she REALLY need dex or str?? I have a shadow toon - was pumping dex into him - is this the correct thing to do or should I also add str? I like this game as things are not so "cookie cutter" and you need to think as to what you're doing - at least I think I think I'm doing something correctly...

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eveX wrote:

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karoc wrote:

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eveX wrote:

Got my key tonight and played for a few hours (after playing D3 since release) and I will say this. so far, Path of Exile, is EVERYTHING I expected from D3, and maybe more. D3 is a complete let down. It's boring, shallow and there is no innovation as far as game-play. PoE is amazing so far. I'm hooked.

If you're looking for innovation in game play, I'm not sure you're in the right place. You mostly click the monsters, and then pick up the loot.

Socket Arrangement's/Linking, Skill/Support Gems, Gem Levels & Replenishing Health Flasks are a few aspects of the game I was talking about. Maybe "innovation" was the wrong word, but nonetheless, they're thinking outside the box.

Oh, then totally agree on those things. I just took "game play" to mean what you actually do in the field to battle monsters I guess. But yeah I love the various skill, flask, socket systems etc. and they're definitely innovative for the ARPG genre even if some have antecedents in other games.

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Zeltak wrote:

And I who thought I used a rather neutral tone in my post, this barrage of emotions you are throwing at me implies I have upset you. Why I know that I have upset you is because some of your replies clearly show you haven't really read what I wrote, all you saw was an attack against your precious baby. Well, clearly given your post history anyone who dislikes Diablo 3 is "laughable".

Seeing as how you are so interested in my post history (im flattered) you will see I really couldnt give a tinkers cuss about what others think or feel. And let me assure you old bean, I have never been remotely angry about anything on the internet, least of all wildly misinformed walls of text from people who think they are far more intelligent than they are, but just parrot poorly informed hipster opinions.

I didnt read all you wrote cause it was boring mate, I scan read the important bits that was bad enough. And tbh be my guest, dislike D3 all you want, personal preference is fine, but dont try to justify that preference by inventing or magnifying flaws or issues often where there are none in D3 and then downplaying or ignoring the flaws of POE.

My point to the OP, if you weren't such a rabid fanboi and understood what I wrote (only 1 person has so far so kudos to them) was that they are both great games in their own way, but that POE is like D2 with a few new ideas chucked in, where as D3 is like a totally new game, it takes the genre in a new direction. Some may not like that, thats cool. But thats what the issue boils down to.

As the OP said he had never played D2 and had only played D3 by getting a pass from a wow subscription, I presumed that he'd most likely be underwhelmed by POE. Im not saying all people think like that or that you should think that, I couldnt care less what you think if im honest mate, I was merely replying to the OP with an alternative view to the usual gushing praise for POE and vitriole for D3 you get here.

LOL and Im the fanboi you say, yet I play both games and like them both... odd that

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bitedefer wrote:

Can i ask where are you right now in D3??? If you are in inferno with your DH, tell me sir, did u do the whole inferno level without preparation and smoke screen solo and without dieing more than 20 times in each act.

Oh yeah since you've said you do not use the AH, i'll believe you. Good luck when you get to act 2 with your barb without farming for years in act 1.

Well i am liking D3 so far (3 different classes at level 60 and another 3 at mid 30s). But fuck me the latency there is so much worse than in POE. This i cant live with. Only thing preventing me from playing POE is the beta status.

Like I said Blizz have said that in patch 1.03 they are dialing down act 2 inferno onward cause its to tough right now, they are also improving ilvl drop rates throughout all of inferno but especially act 1. On from that in patch 1.1 build diversity (and improving it) is being targetted. No its not perfect right now, but I still feel its more diverse than POE, sorry I just do, and Ive played both extensively now.

Thing is some people aren't concerned about diversity, and thats fine. Some peoples main focus is creating weird builds or just loot, and those people will probably have more fun in POE. But for people who want a more dynamic and fluid gameplay experience D3 is better.

The latency though, yeah its shocking at times I totally agree with that. POE I have never had an issue with (well not much) That said when POE goes OB and then live that may change.

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johnschroeder02 wrote:

If I find a good white item with decent implicit mods on it, I can use a single alchemy orb and have a valuable and usable item. I do not have to use 'A LOT' of orbs on it.

You should add the word MIGHT in that sentence as in...

"I can use a single alchemy orb and I MIGHT have a valuable and usable item"

Most players know the chance of rolling a great item first time from an alch orb is minimal, most likely it will take numerous scouring and then numerous alch orbs to get it right. And god forbid if you decide you want a new support gem for the attached skill that doesn't match the available colours, rerolling a 6 socket item to get the exact right colour sockets is a painful experience.

Besides you miss my point entirely. You said a white item is usuable. Its not, a white item is usable after you've crafted it. In the same way you can craft items in D3... I swear sometimes you guys are either willfuly stupid or just dont understand basic game mechanics, you get so hung up on the process you cant see how similar certain systems are in practice.

Oh and really, picking holes in grammar?? We are stooping to that now are we... /lame

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Udja wrote:

Oh boy, what a can of worms I opened up with such a simple question lol!

If you do a quick scan of this forum, you will see how just now not-simple that question is. We've had so many threads about it, with most maintaining their civility despite the obviously volatile topic. My first real post on this forum was in fact a why-I-chose-this-over-D3 rant.

It's understandable that such comparisons will happen and that a lot of people who come to Path of Exile do so having found certain other games wanting...but it should be equally understandable that what may seem a simple question, really isn't.

The best way to answer it is with hands-on experience, because while Path of Exile might seem familiar in its elements, it is in how those elements are combined that the game finds its worth as an original, innovative Action RPG.

Unfortunately, while comparisons and contrasts are very useful tools, they all-too-often lead to subjective assessments, which in turn are not that far off outright arguing.

In short, I truly understand you asking the question, but please be aware that it has been asked many times on here and you can find literally hundreds of answers without actually making a single post to ask it.

:)

I loved the part where you completely ignored every solid argument I put forth that explains just how dumbed down Diablo 3 is. But it's okay, better to just tell your lifestory about how you don't care and aren't upset when you wrote an angry novel in reply to a disagreeing voice.

I'm not a rabid fanboy, I see a shit game called Diablo 3 and I explain why it is a shit game. Simple as that.

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RodHull wrote:

Thing is some people aren't concerned about diversity, and thats fine. Some peoples main focus is creating weird builds or just loot, and those people will probably have more fun in POE. But for people who want a more dynamic and fluid gameplay experience D3 is better.

Kite, kite, kite, kite, instakilled. Respawn, kite, kite, kite, kite, instakilled, respawn. Kite, kite, kite, ok first champion back down, only had to die 5 times. This combat feels so fluid and dynamic.

Now I know for sure you haven't progressed through Inferno. Full of shit lol, funny that you avoided his question. It feels good to know that your judgement on diversity and your opinion overall isn't shared by the majority here.

Diablo TWO was amazing after the expansion and patches.

Diablo 3 sucks.

PoE is a very solid game that feels designed and thought about, not just shat out of some huge developer - thanks ActiBlizz - and you can FIND useful items in PoE, instead of being forced to buy them from the auction house like in D3...

Play PoE and support good games.

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Samantha wrote:

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Jarchan wrote:

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ifailedhard wrote:

You can only have one type of Kiwi.
Ex: If you upgrade your Kiwi support pack to Bronze, you'll lose the $25 one and receive the Bronze Kiwi

Although I'm pretty sure if you buy two separate packages, say both Bronze and Silver, rather than upgrading from Bronze to Silver, then you'll get both kiwis.

Yep that's completely correct! Upgrading works as if you had bought the new pack from the beginning, it gives you the difference between the packs. However, if you purchase two separate packs you will receive both Kiwis.

So you can have 5 kiwis following you like a mother duck?