Lost interest in races cuz of Points system

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FrowningPrawn wrote:
This is my opinion on the matter: I also think they should have different leagues ( Bronze, Silver, Gold or whatever)
There could be better rewards for higher leagues, this would mean that higher level players would play in the higher level leagues in order to get better rewards, whilst lower level players would be in with a chance with winning at least some low level uniques/rewards from the lower leagues. This keeps the idea of improving your skill at the game whilst also keeping the idea of whoever plays better gets rewarded more.
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There are already rewards you can get in the leagues as it stands. If you race 7 times and get a point each race you get a reward and 7 chances at rewards.
What you are proposing is separating the leagues so that people like you never have a chance at the better rewards in the higher leagues. At least the way it is now you have a chance.
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majesw wrote:
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FrowningPrawn wrote:
This is my opinion on the matter: I also think they should have different leagues ( Bronze, Silver, Gold or whatever)
There could be better rewards for higher leagues, this would mean that higher level players would play in the higher level leagues in order to get better rewards, whilst lower level players would be in with a chance with winning at least some low level uniques/rewards from the lower leagues. This keeps the idea of improving your skill at the game whilst also keeping the idea of whoever plays better gets rewarded more.
peace


There are already rewards you can get in the leagues as it stands. If you race 7 times and get a point each race you get a reward and 7 chances at rewards.
What you are proposing is separating the leagues so that people like you never have a chance at the better rewards in the higher leagues. At least the way it is now you have a chance.


Not quite. The more points you earn in the race, the more 'votes' or chances you get ... and when you constantly place 1st & 1st in your class & yada yada you get x20s the chances as the those that only get a point or 3 (which is the majority)

I think the goal here is to get as many people as possible to participate. I've read all the posts in this thread, and imo it's pretty much the same thing being said: things are not balanced in regards to the random drawings due to the current math.

That being said. I'm not going to quit doing races or anything. Everyone is entitled to there opinion, and the beta period is a good time to state said opinions. We are only in Season 2 afterall. It will continue to evolve, and I'm fairly certain that GGG does read most of the comments on there own forum (as long as the thread doesn't fall into a pissing match)
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Surprising enough I found that you can win items and points even without "Winning" the race.

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What I get from this thread is that people want to farm races for some kind of reward regardless of their skill, instead of trying to get better at racing and actually earn those rewards. Imo sole participation should not be rewarded.
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My statement was correct Zelpo. You get 7 chances. They may be small. But what is there to motivate you to improve if you are getting rewards for only making level 8 in an hour or whatever the low point is?

Why is there a problem with the people who are the best at something being rewarded for it? There were no prizes in the Warcraft 3 tournaments and frankly if you weren't good people harassed you endlessly. People still participated and had a blast.
All they need to do is offer simultanious races, with differetn reward scales, you could think of it like the leagues in SC2.

so players that do well will move up to the higher leagues with bigger rewards and players that don't have time to do a lot of races can still get some points/prizes in a lesser league

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majesw wrote:
My statement was correct Zelpo. You get 7 chances. They may be small. But what is there to motivate you to improve if you are getting rewards for only making level 8 in an hour or whatever the low point is?

Why is there a problem with the people who are the best at something being rewarded for it? There were no prizes in the Warcraft 3 tournaments and frankly if you weren't good people harassed you endlessly. People still participated and had a blast.


I don't have any problem with the current math, and like I said I'm not going to rage & quit & all that drama ... just stating that while watching a stream of the best player of this game, he was complaining that he burned a stash-tab for holding demis*. This.

* unless it was sarcasm that went completely over my head. but I don't think so, because last night or the night before he was annoyed at getting the ammy on a lottery. GGG give that ammy to someone that actually wants it, someone who may become a potential contributor. Expand the player base, get people wanting to do races.

That was my point. I could care less that Kripp has two-stash tabs full of demi's that he will likely never use. More power to him.
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Some of the people in this forum have a point and instead of calling them cry babies or saying they cant have it their way try being constructive. The best thing about this game is the devs and the fact that they listen to the community and post updates on changes to come and what is being worked on.

I agree racing agisnt the players who play 24/7 and know all the little tricks each and every patch to get ahead makes the race less enjoyable. I have ran about 15 total races most have been with an unenjoyable spec I knew I had to go just to have a chance at being high lv. Normally after the race I remove the gear off the guy and delete him.

Idea: In the future find a way to bracket off players who have larger amounts of points into their own league. Example: 0-40 point accounts all play agisnt each other, 41-120 all play agisnt each other and 120 and up play agisnt each other.

Idea: Maybe when melle gets stronger this will not matter as much, but traps, spells, and ranged players are the only way to win these races. I would like to see a couple races where melle is all you can use and I dont mean ground slam or LS.

I rather enjoyed the cut throat race I played but I believe dropping all items is to harsh. After killing several people which was very fun I got killed myself. After that I became basically useless and had to waste time just trying to find a weapon to use my skills. Keep the exp pen, and maybe have it drop 1 or 2 items at random instead of everything you own. I love pvp and PK i look forward to seeing more come of this league and of the arena pvp in the future.
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Malzarius wrote:
Some of the people in this forum have a point and instead of calling them cry babies or saying they cant have it their way try being constructive. The best thing about this game is the devs and the fact that they listen to the community and post updates on changes to come and what is being worked on.

I agree racing agisnt the players who play 24/7 and know all the little tricks each and every patch to get ahead makes the race less enjoyable. I have ran about 15 total races most have been with an unenjoyable spec I knew I had to go just to have a chance at being high lv. Normally after the race I remove the gear off the guy and delete him.

Idea: In the future find a way to bracket off players who have larger amounts of points into their own league. Example: 0-40 point accounts all play agisnt each other, 41-120 all play agisnt each other and 120 and up play agisnt each other.

Idea: Maybe when melle gets stronger this will not matter as much, but traps, spells, and ranged players are the only way to win these races. I would like to see a couple races where melle is all you can use and I dont mean ground slam or LS.

I rather enjoyed the cut throat race I played but I believe dropping all items is to harsh. After killing several people which was very fun I got killed myself. After that I became basically useless and had to waste time just trying to find a weapon to use my skills. Keep the exp pen, and maybe have it drop 1 or 2 items at random instead of everything you own. I love pvp and PK i look forward to seeing more come of this league and of the arena pvp in the future.



Sorry mate... Don't mean to be a downer. I just made a few posts above about how moving the really good players into their own league would just mean that everyone else has no chance for certain items. I believe that the current way is the best as everyone has goals to strive for. Yeah we may not win first place, but if there is another league above you then getting first place in B-league means nothing anyway...
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majesw wrote:
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Malzarius wrote:
Some of the people in this forum have a point and instead of calling them cry babies or saying they cant have it their way try being constructive. The best thing about this game is the devs and the fact that they listen to the community and post updates on changes to come and what is being worked on.

I agree racing agisnt the players who play 24/7 and know all the little tricks each and every patch to get ahead makes the race less enjoyable. I have ran about 15 total races most have been with an unenjoyable spec I knew I had to go just to have a chance at being high lv. Normally after the race I remove the gear off the guy and delete him.

Idea: In the future find a way to bracket off players who have larger amounts of points into their own league. Example: 0-40 point accounts all play agisnt each other, 41-120 all play agisnt each other and 120 and up play agisnt each other.

Idea: Maybe when melle gets stronger this will not matter as much, but traps, spells, and ranged players are the only way to win these races. I would like to see a couple races where melle is all you can use and I dont mean ground slam or LS.

I rather enjoyed the cut throat race I played but I believe dropping all items is to harsh. After killing several people which was very fun I got killed myself. After that I became basically useless and had to waste time just trying to find a weapon to use my skills. Keep the exp pen, and maybe have it drop 1 or 2 items at random instead of everything you own. I love pvp and PK i look forward to seeing more come of this league and of the arena pvp in the future.



Sorry mate... Don't mean to be a downer. I just made a few posts above about how moving the really good players into their own league would just mean that everyone else has no chance for certain items. I believe that the current way is the best as everyone has goals to strive for. Yeah we may not win first place, but if there is another league above you then getting first place in B-league means nothing anyway...


Just by removing the ''First to do X quest'' and replace it with ''Do X quest'' (only on side-quests) would make it more fun
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