group play vs solo play rewards have gotten out of hand

its not group play rewards that the video demonstrates. Those people pooled their resources to juice the content to a very high degree - 5 delirium orbs, elevated sextants, perfect rolled watchstones on a possibly fractured map with 30 quality. That shit takes a lot of effort to get going in the first place.

Most people won't go to that extent, so I don't see a problem with the reward being proportional to investment. This thread imo is just another sad case of the 0.1% being salty about the 0.001% - which is pretty much the norm whenever there's a thread in here complaining about "rewards"

Every thread like this also has to have apologizers. Excusers. Etc...

The game economy always ends up controlled by groups that pull this... Farmers or players.

Solo players are at a HUGE disadvantage. That is done by design.

NS

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stalkingjackal wrote:

its not group play rewards that the video demonstrates. Those people pooled their resources to juice the content to a very high degree - 5 delirium orbs, elevated sextants, perfect rolled watchstones on a possibly fractured map with 30 quality. That shit takes a lot of effort to get going in the first place.

Most people won't go to that extent, so I don't see a problem with the reward being proportional to investment. This thread imo is just another sad case of the 0.1% being salty about the 0.001% - which is pretty much the norm whenever there's a thread in here complaining about "rewards"

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stalkingjackal wrote:

its not group play rewards that the video demonstrates. Those people pooled their resources to juice the content to a very high degree - 5 delirium orbs, elevated sextants, perfect rolled watchstones on a possibly fractured map with 30 quality. That shit takes a lot of effort to get going in the first place.

You cant fracture maps anymore, they changed that like 5 leagues ago. You think only group players juice their maps? We are literally talking about how they spend 5 times less currency per map but get 1000%, 10000%, 100000% more loot. Which is completely bizar.

Its not bizarre... its by design. On purpose. Etc. If its by design then you have to ask why.

Who is GGG giving the advantage to and why. look at the market and the rmt traders.

It takes money to make money... If you have the currency you can easily get more.

Solo players cannot in any way shape of form compete.

NS

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banxKING wrote:

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stalkingjackal wrote:

its not group play rewards that the video demonstrates. Those people pooled their resources to juice the content to a very high degree - 5 delirium orbs, elevated sextants, perfect rolled watchstones on a possibly fractured map with 30 quality. That shit takes a lot of effort to get going in the first place.

You cant fracture maps anymore, they changed that like 5 leagues ago. You think only group players juice their maps? We are literally talking about how they spend 5 times less currency per map but get 1000%, 10000%, 100000% more loot. Which is completely bizar.

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Nightstone13 wrote:

Its not bizarre... its by design. On purpose. Etc. If its by design then you have to ask why.

Who is GGG giving the advantage to and why. look at the market and the rmt traders.

It takes money to make money... If you have the currency you can easily get more.

Solo players cannot in any way shape of form compete.

NS

This is just conspiracy theory. RMT sellers are mostly bots. I have currency, way more than the average joe, of course I cant compete with bots, but I should be able to compete with party players if the party mechanic itself wasnt broken.
I dont know how much these party groups influence the economy, how much they are needed to supply, specially early in the league, would we not have any currency in the market if werent for them? I doubt. I believe most of the currency we have early in the league are from bots, so there is no reason at all for GGG to give advantage to a few players, and I really, really doubt they do. As I understand this is a problem only a few players care, and also an advantage a even smaller playerbase use, so they just didnt adressed to it.

Your also a player who is putting most of his waking hours into it...

Bots... The cry of the ignorant. Yep a group of bots are sophisticated enough to do this... Dude really?

Labor in other parts of the world is dirt cheap... Why use a bot when humans work sooooo much better for this kind of thing.

The harder and more grindy the game becomes the more RMT has grown. Do the math amigo...

NS

Wanted to add " This is coming from the guy that more than likely has a HH 2 weeks into every league" ROFL

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banxKING wrote:

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Nightstone13 wrote:

Its not bizarre... its by design. On purpose. Etc. If its by design then you have to ask why.

Who is GGG giving the advantage to and why. look at the market and the rmt traders.

It takes money to make money... If you have the currency you can easily get more.

Solo players cannot in any way shape of form compete.

NS

This is just conspiracy theory. RMT sellers are mostly bots. I have currency, way more than the average joe, of course I cant compete with bots, but I should be able to compete with party players if the party mechanic itself wasnt broken.
I dont know how much these party groups influence the economy, how much they are needed to supply, specially early in the league, would we not have any currency in the market if werent for them? I doubt. I believe most of the currency we have early in the league are from bots, so there is no reason at all for GGG to give advantage to a few players, and I really, really doubt they do. As I understand this is a problem only a few players care, and also an advantage a even smaller playerbase use, so they just didnt adressed to it.

ofc bots are sophisticated to map and collect loot and trade it. they do it 24/7

they sure as hell are not doing it on top end content... simple stuff sure. Anything beyond that... nope.

this game has way to many lethal variables.

You have been drinking the conspiracy koolaid too long...

NS

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banxKING wrote:

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Nightstone13 wrote:

Its not bizarre... its by design. On purpose. Etc. If its by design then you have to ask why.

Who is GGG giving the advantage to and why. look at the market and the rmt traders.

It takes money to make money... If you have the currency you can easily get more.

Solo players cannot in any way shape of form compete.

NS

This is just conspiracy theory. RMT sellers are mostly bots. I have currency, way more than the average joe, of course I cant compete with bots, but I should be able to compete with party players if the party mechanic itself wasnt broken.
I dont know how much these party groups influence the economy, how much they are needed to supply, specially early in the league, would we not have any currency in the market if werent for them? I doubt. I believe most of the currency we have early in the league are from bots, so there is no reason at all for GGG to give advantage to a few players, and I really, really doubt they do. As I understand this is a problem only a few players care, and also an advantage a even smaller playerbase use, so they just didnt adressed to it.

yeah why party play should get bonus to rarity and quantity?

They are already getting bonus with their auras so if something they should get minuses to magic find lol

Game is fun but when you hit the wall of trading, it sucks all the fun out of it.
I played with a friend and dont understand why people defend the game really.
The multiplayer part sucks so much, leveling is bad if you open a chest or talks with a npc that is mission critical and your friend were not close by, youre fucked. You will be stuck and have to wait 15-20min for things to respawn again, and then you can do the quest again.

Also mapping with a friend, spending 2 portals every time because you play together??? Really gj
We got our first ex in tier 9 map, alced, and 40% delirium.
1EX!!!!! Ffs we spend all currency to just get there to now get 60c both.

We got bored because we spend all currency on gear and mate died all the time and he got pissed because he didnt know what killed him when he was res capped and 4k life in tier 8 maps.

I stopped aswell because indidnt find any loot i could use to progress.
Didnt even get to sirus this league xD

Game is just too boring and playing over 150 maps and find 1ex just pisses me off