PoE time has passed

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Marinxar wrote:

Unless the game is split, with hard mode, and then reverting most these nerfs for the normal mode, the game will stagnate.

It will lose all the growth and just the 30-40k people playing now, that enjoy the gamestyle where you constantly struggling for everything, will stick around. They will scale back their company to the couple of founders, and will be remembered for what it could have been.

This idea that they'll revert every nerf because of hard mode is a recipe for disappointment haha, where is this stemming from?

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Marinxar wrote:

Unless the game is split, with hard mode, and then reverting most these nerfs for the normal mode, the game will stagnate.

unfortunently, ceo didn't say anything at all about reverting non-awakened support gems nerfs. some tweaks to highlvl awakened gems are surely not enough. so, pretty sure we stuck here, unless they will introduce big sources of additional power (like cluster jewels in delirium) in 3.16.

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Tainted_Fate wrote:

my dude, you don't have enough credibility to talk about power creep since it's extremely unlikely that you haven't killed endgame boss in 3.13 (even once) because it was "too easy and boring" LOL, actually it is one of the most ridiculus things i've heard on these forums recently. people don't kill endgame bosses because they are too hard and/or players are too bad at the game

My dude you dont know me :)

Im playing this game to explore builds, not to farm bosses.
Despite that fact Ive killed every single hard boss including Aul but except Maven. Believe it or not - couldnt care less.

None of those bosses are hard once you´ve learned their moveset. Thats all there is to it.
It speaks volumes that you think bosses in this game are actually hard. They arent. None of those bossfights are gear or dps checks either. Its only about the moveset and correct timing - with the exception of Maven final Invitations for the Uncharted Realm.
Those are hard and gear/dps checks precisely because there is no moveset or timing involved. They arent predictable as all the other bosses are and also mapmods come into play which isnt the case in any other of the toptier bossfights.

So except Mavens final Invitations all bossfights are in fact pretty easy and only bad players need the powercreep of metabuilds to burn them down faster than the bosses can act because otherwise those bad players would die and its those players who are claiming now endgame bosses were too hard to kill and thus PoE is supposedly on the decline.


Besides: Talking about credibility while your profile is hidden is amongst the most stupid things I came across recently.

Regardless, have a nice day.

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Tainted_Fate wrote:

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Marinxar wrote:

Unless the game is split, with hard mode, and then reverting most these nerfs for the normal mode, the game will stagnate.

unfortunently, ceo didn't say anything at all about reverting non-awakened support gems nerfs. some tweaks to highlvl awakened gems are surely not enough. so, pretty sure we stuck here, unless they will introduce big sources of additional power (like cluster jewels in delirium) in 3.16.

Yeah, nothing was mentioned, but I don't see most people returning. People are pretty upset at the moment, and just hanging a carrot out, might not be enough.

Chris did say they are done nerfing now, except for Fortify. So I will try out what they bring to the table, and how they think they will fix the current state of the game. Especially looking forward to see what they have planned for flasks, as currently it's way worst than what it was.

Bottom line is, there is significant damage done to the image of the game and the trust in the developers. Manning up and reverting some of those heavy handed nerfs, might be a good starting place.

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Marinxar wrote:

Chris did say they are done nerfing now, except for Fortify. So I will try out what they bring to the table, and how they think they will fix the current state of the game. Especially looking forward to see what they have planned for flasks, as currently it's way worst than what it was.

Bottom line is, there is significant damage done to the image of the game and the trust in the developers. Manning up and reverting some of those heavy handed nerfs, might be a good starting place.

Chris also mentioned that they will continue buffing the acts which will make maps harder too. I think that 3.16 revenue will be lower than 3.15 revenue if overall the game is net nerfed.

Yeah, my trust in GGG is at an all time low. I will see what makes it into the 3.16 patch notes.

I think POE will always be relevant because they put out new content every 3 months. None of their competitors are set up to do that. I wonder why Diablo 4 just doesn't copy POE's revenue model. It is successful. Blizzard has the resources to copy POE--sell mtx and put out a new season every 3 months.

As for high level people leaving a company voluntarily...I know some people who did make money hand-over-fist and just retired.

In New York if you tell people you are not working, they say "Oh no, let me call some people."

In San Francisco if you tell people you are not working, they say "Congratulations!"

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Orbaal wrote:

None of those bosses are hard once you´ve learned their moveset. Thats all there is to it.
It speaks volumes that you think bosses in this game are actually hard. They arent. None of those bossfights are gear or dps checks either. Its only about the moveset and correct timing

*Everything* is easy if you describe things like that.

Too bad reality exists.

Easy boss is something you kill, without dying, on your first try.
Hard boss is something you practise to kill many times.

The way you describe things is like saying winning the lottery is easy, just put the right numbers. That's all there is to it, right?

the fate of the last game that killed PoE lol

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Fapmobile wrote:

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Orbaal wrote:

None of those bosses are hard once you´ve learned their moveset. Thats all there is to it.
It speaks volumes that you think bosses in this game are actually hard. They arent. None of those bossfights are gear or dps checks either. Its only about the moveset and correct timing

*Everything* is easy if you describe things like that.

Too bad reality exists.

Easy boss is something you kill, without dying, on your first try.
Hard boss is something you practise to kill many times.

The way you describe things is like saying winning the lottery is easy, just put the right numbers. That's all there is to it, right?

the level of arrogance and self-esteem of some members of this forum is beyond any reasonable levels, so, don't forget, you are talking to elite build experimentator, brilliant tactician, he sees it all: it's just a movesets, you see, you dodge, you win. no dps checks. bosses like maven are too easy and boring to even bother with (!!!). okay, man..

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Skelos_bg wrote:

With D2R and Lost Ark around the corner, and D4 coming the same time as PoE 2, it seems that PoE time has already passed. The interest in the game is way lower than before and that won't change in the near future.

Maybe PoE 2 is the last hope for the series, maybe it's already doomed by D4. I hear D4 will be huge.

What are your thoughts?

You forgot Last Epoch. LE is a great game with better balance, better drops, better crafting, better skill trees, already better endgame and is still in beta phase! Don't mention the better QoL features (auto sort inventory, auto pick up crafting reagents etc.)
Too bad Chris "vision" is still POE=D2. We are not in 1990's anymore...

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cjimaras wrote:

You forgot Last Epoch. LE is a great game with better balance, better drops, better crafting, better skill trees, already better endgame

If it's so much better, why is "nobody" playing it? Hell, even declining while PoE is "dying"?

The world is a strange place.