Had to Cancel My Diablo 3 Pre-Order

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leto2626 wrote:

So much hate, especially from people who didn't even play one of the games.

I anticipated D3 for way too long, still didn't cancel my preorder, love PoE to death so far. Also backed Grim Dawn for 50$, as much I paid for this gem so far.
I love ARPG's, I don't create opinions of games I didn't even touch yet (I deliberately avoided news about gameplay developement and playing D3 beta so it will all be fresh to me without having suffered huge disappointments).

I'll play them all and probably one more than the others. If D3 doesn't deliver I won't be fed an expansion or anything it's pretty simple. Sure as heck I'll be playing PoE for years to come, now it's the other games that prove themselves, that doesn't mean other games should be shot down before you even played them.

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thepmrc wrote:

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alcovitch wrote:

So the fact that PvP is coming shortly after launch makes a Co oP centred game now single player?? The primary focus of Diablo has always been the PvE aspect. Always.

Is GGG not in this to make money? I guess we can assume that PoE was designed from the ground up around the cash shop. And I actually believe that to be far closer to the truth then the RMAH situation.

Yes PVP is coming SOON(tm), so we should expect this within a few years. The cash shop vs RMAH thing as its just asinine. I don't care that D3 was designed around an RMAH just as I don't care that PoE was designed with the cash shop in mind. I was just pointing out that it was pretty obvious and to deny it is silly. Diablo has never been a co-op game by my estimation. I played D1 by myself. I played D2 on LAN at initial launch and essentially played single player on battle.net after LOD. Sure you can co-op, but there was no need to. I really hope that D3 at least keeps this consistent. If there is 'group only' content it is just that much more of a turn off to actual diablo fans.

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alcovitch wrote:

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thepmrc wrote:

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alcovitch wrote:

So the fact that PvP is coming shortly after launch makes a Co oP centred game now single player?? The primary focus of Diablo has always been the PvE aspect. Always.

Is GGG not in this to make money? I guess we can assume that PoE was designed from the ground up around the cash shop. And I actually believe that to be far closer to the truth then the RMAH situation.

Yes PVP is coming SOON(tm), so we should expect this within a few years. The cash shop vs RMAH thing as its just asinine. I don't care that D3 was designed around an RMAH just as I don't care that PoE was designed with the cash shop in mind. I was just pointing out that it was pretty obvious and to deny it is silly. Diablo has never been a co-op game by my estimation. I played D1 by myself. I played D2 on LAN at initial launch and essentially played single player on battle.net after LOD. Sure you can co-op, but there was no need to. I really hope that D3 at least keeps this consistent. If there is 'group only' content it is just that much more of a turn off to actual diablo fans.

You can play by yourself online, if you choose.

"Your estimation" is the key word. Not by Blizzards estimation. Since they're the creators of the series, i'll take their word on it.

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xxnoob wrote:

Again, always online is dumb. People who want to play single player shouldn't be forced to be connected to the internet. The only reason Blizzard ever took this decision was because with the RMAH they can't let players fuck around with the game. It's only to make the RMAH work.

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alcovitch wrote:

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xxnoob wrote:

Again, always online is dumb. People who want to play single player shouldn't be forced to be connected to the internet. The only reason Blizzard ever took this decision was because with the RMAH they can't let players fuck around with the game. It's only to make the RMAH work.

Again, how is this ANY different then PoE? it's always online, so I guess it's "dumb" right?

Double standards much?

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alcovitch wrote:

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thepmrc wrote:

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alcovitch wrote:

So the fact that PvP is coming shortly after launch makes a Co oP centred game now single player?? The primary focus of Diablo has always been the PvE aspect. Always.

Is GGG not in this to make money? I guess we can assume that PoE was designed from the ground up around the cash shop. And I actually believe that to be far closer to the truth then the RMAH situation.

Yes PVP is coming SOON(tm), so we should expect this within a few years. The cash shop vs RMAH thing as its just asinine. I don't care that D3 was designed around an RMAH just as I don't care that PoE was designed with the cash shop in mind. I was just pointing out that it was pretty obvious and to deny it is silly. Diablo has never been a co-op game by my estimation. I played D1 by myself. I played D2 on LAN at initial launch and essentially played single player on battle.net after LOD. Sure you can co-op, but there was no need to. I really hope that D3 at least keeps this consistent. If there is 'group only' content it is just that much more of a turn off to actual diablo fans.

You can play by yourself online, if you choose.

"Your estimation" is the key word. Not by Blizzards estimation. Since they're the creators of the series, i'll take their word on it.

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xxnoob wrote:

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alcovitch wrote:

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xxnoob wrote:

Again, always online is dumb. People who want to play single player shouldn't be forced to be connected to the internet. The only reason Blizzard ever took this decision was because with the RMAH they can't let players fuck around with the game. It's only to make the RMAH work.

Again, how is this ANY different then PoE? it's always online, so I guess it's "dumb" right?

Double standards much?

PoE is free to play.

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thepmrc wrote:

Actually you are very very wrong.

Blizzard North was originally an independent company. It was established in 1993 under the name Condor, founded by Max Schaefer, Erich Schaefer, and David Brevik. The company was purchased and renamed by Blizzard about six months before the release of their hit PC game, Diablo, in 1996.

Blizzard North / Condor were the actual creators of Diablo. To start up the flame war again, Blizzard/Activision are just developers who are desecrating its corpse.