Had to Cancel My Diablo 3 Pre-Order

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thepmrc wrote:

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alcovitch wrote:

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xxnoob wrote:

Always online single player is bad service to me, when I have to pay $60 to play it. Diablo 3 was designed around the RMAH concept and thus it will suck.

Well lets correct your failed logic.

Stop referring to Diablo 3 as a single player game and it may help your perceptions.

Diablo 3 was NEVER meant to be a single player game. Blizzard has always considered the Diablo series a CO OP experience before everything else.

Diablo 3 was not designed around the RMAH. Please stop using false perceptions as facts to make your point.

Considering it is launching without any pvp elements it may as well be single player. Also, considering Blizzard's prime objective is to make money I believe it safe to assume that the RMAH was a huge design aspect of the game.

So the fact that PvP is coming shortly after launch makes a Co oP centred game now single player?? The primary focus of Diablo has always been the PvE aspect. Always.

Is GGG not in this to make money? I guess we can assume that PoE was designed from the ground up around the cash shop. And I actually believe that to be far closer to the truth then the RMAH situation.

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Tagek wrote:

The bias is once again strong on this forum.

Tell me about it.

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alcovitch wrote:

So the fact that PvP is coming shortly after launch makes a Co oP centred game now single player?? The primary focus of Diablo has always been the PvE aspect. Always.

Is GGG not in this to make money? I guess we can assume that PoE was designed from the ground up around the cash shop. And I actually believe that to be far closer to the truth then the RMAH situation.

Of course PoE is gonna generate money through the cash shop, but the difference between PoE cash shop and D3 RMAH is that you can't buy power with it, just swag.

Very true Alco, not that it matters to me.

That's what I mean by bias though, they don't like D3, so suddenly everything blizzard does is 'evil' and 'unethical' etc, while the companies they like are perfect in every way.

I'm very biased too, but at least I actually admit it.

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xxnoob wrote:

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alcovitch wrote:

So the fact that PvP is coming shortly after launch makes a Co oP centred game now single player?? The primary focus of Diablo has always been the PvE aspect. Always.

Is GGG not in this to make money? I guess we can assume that PoE was designed from the ground up around the cash shop. And I actually believe that to be far closer to the truth then the RMAH situation.

Of course PoE is gonna generate money through the cash shop, but the difference between PoE cash shop and D3 RMAH is that you can't buy power with it, just swag.

Oh. My. God.

Here we go with the "/cry RMAH is gonna let da noobz by da powa without earning itz!" tangent.

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Tagek wrote:

Very true Alco, not that it matters to me.

That's what I mean by bias though, they don't like D3, so suddenly everything blizzard does is 'evil' and 'unethical' etc, while the companies they like are perfect in every way.

I'm very biased too, but at least I actually admit it.

Well I have no problem with people not liking D3 if it's not their cup of tea. But most of the "facts" I see used as justification for disliking D3 don't even make any logical sense. That bothers me.

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alcovitch wrote:

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xxnoob wrote:

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alcovitch wrote:

So the fact that PvP is coming shortly after launch makes a Co oP centred game now single player?? The primary focus of Diablo has always been the PvE aspect. Always.

Is GGG not in this to make money? I guess we can assume that PoE was designed from the ground up around the cash shop. And I actually believe that to be far closer to the truth then the RMAH situation.

Of course PoE is gonna generate money through the cash shop, but the difference between PoE cash shop and D3 RMAH is that you can't buy power with it, just swag.

Oh. My. God.

Here we go with the "/cry RMAH is gonna let da noobz by da powa without earning itz!" tangent.

Just because you like it doesn't mean other people have to. Why do you think so many people, including the devs, want to keep pay to win out of PoE?

So much hate, especially from people who didn't even play one of the games.

I anticipated D3 for way too long, still didn't cancel my preorder, love PoE to death so far. Also backed Grim Dawn for 50$, as much I paid for this gem so far.
I love ARPG's, I don't create opinions of games I didn't even touch yet (I deliberately avoided news about gameplay developement and playing D3 beta so it will all be fresh to me without having suffered huge disappointments).

I'll play them all and probably one more than the others. If D3 doesn't deliver I won't be fed an expansion or anything it's pretty simple. Sure as heck I'll be playing PoE for years to come, now it's the other games that prove themselves, that doesn't mean other games should be shot down before you even played them.

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alcovitch wrote:

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Tagek wrote:

Very true Alco, not that it matters to me.

That's what I mean by bias though, they don't like D3, so suddenly everything blizzard does is 'evil' and 'unethical' etc, while the companies they like are perfect in every way.

I'm very biased too, but at least I actually admit it.

Well I have no problem with people not liking D3 if it's not their cup of tea. But most of the "facts" I see used as justification for disliking D3 don't even make any logical sense. That bothers me.

Liking something has NOTHING to do w/ logic. I like red heads, my friend Max likes brunetts. WTF does logic have to do w/ it.

"there is no accounting for taste".

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alcovitch wrote:

So the fact that PvP is coming shortly after launch makes a Co oP centred game now single player?? The primary focus of Diablo has always been the PvE aspect. Always.

Is GGG not in this to make money? I guess we can assume that PoE was designed from the ground up around the cash shop. And I actually believe that to be far closer to the truth then the RMAH situation.

Yes PVP is coming SOON(tm), so we should expect this within a few years. The cash shop vs RMAH thing as its just asinine. I don't care that D3 was designed around an RMAH just as I don't care that PoE was designed with the cash shop in mind. I was just pointing out that it was pretty obvious and to deny it is silly. Diablo has never been a co-op game by my estimation. I played D1 by myself. I played D2 on LAN at initial launch and essentially played single player on battle.net after LOD. Sure you can co-op, but there was no need to. I really hope that D3 at least keeps this consistent. If there is 'group only' content it is just that much more of a turn off to actual diablo fans.