Harvest could be worst league ever?

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kuciol wrote:

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

You can't prove someone wrong when they've already convinced himself/herself they're right. Explanations were provided, your lack of working game knowledge meant you just disregarded it.

All you did was cry how much it costs to make your chars effective and how in game market matters in balancing when its BS that you even confirmed yourself in this post saying that most players couldnt afford herald stacking.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

Playing since closed beta doesn't mean what you think it does, there are players that have surpassed me in their first league, and I've gotten farther than most beta players. Beta means you were there for the beginning, it doesn't mean you have kept up with the constant changes over the years.

But i did. The fact that i dont do such content regularly only reinforces my point that in grand scheme of things super top endgame is irrelevant. You did nothing to prove that statement wrong.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

But bringing up percentages, most players don't even care enough or enjoy it enough to progress to the mapping stage, so if they simply balanced around the majority there would be no nerfs because most would never get far enough to necessitate it.

I already specified what needs to be considered in order to make nerfs, you stick to player count ignoring everything else. It seems like you know you are wrong but cant stand to admit it so you disregard any points made that you cant attack directly or me personally.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

Of course, when you factor in that the more dedicated players (and most likely to invest money) are the "minority" doing end game, then yeah they matter.

The herald stack of Delirium would still exist if this small minority of players didn't matter. Most of the player base could never afford even the initial investment. But again, that small minority matters a lot more than you want to give them credit for.

Again i told you what needs to be considered for balancing. Power, accessibility, clunkyness, ease of use, ease of replication, gear dependency, prep needed and many more factors.

I feel like this discussion is going nowhere. Game is not and will not be balanced around the hardest possible content because that would be stupid thing to do. You may not agree with this but thats a fact. Unless you provide any evidence that it isnt the case i consider this discussion finished.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

Sorry I was too busy crying. But seriously, its crazy but not unsurprising to see that level of arrogance from someone who hasn't actually completed the content. Like you can't balance for the top end content, but how is one supposed to do it? You can't do sirus and you're clearly not alone. But how is the most difficult content supposed to be done? It takes dramatically more power to do t16+100% delirium, but shouldn't it still be possible to be done by a small portion? If it's in the game, it's meant to be possible right?

But you're right the discussion has gone no where - when some guy is convinced he "knows his shit" and hasn't even beaten sirus it's clear what they believe and what they know do not line up.

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kuciol wrote:

To answer your stupid question for 10th time, yes doing such content should be possible but it doesnt mean its the point of balancing. Never was and never will be. Content beyond certain point is irrelevant to balancing, if you cant grasp such simple concept then come back in 10 years when you grow up.

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zzang wrote:

So you answer as a game designer working for GGG or is this just made up bullshit i read there?

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Maelstromicus wrote:

Why do people keep feeding trolls. You guys do know you are butting your heads against a brick wall, right?

You can never hold a reasoned discussion with a zealot, ever. Zealotry is a sickness, it cannot be defeated with logic. These WK's in here all remind me of zealots, and every game community has them sadly. I honestly think that they all live in hope that one day their zealous defences will be rewarded with something from the game's producers. Although, I have to say, in all my years gaming I've yet to see that actually happen. Yet still they pursue their mindless and often illogical defences, surely that is the pure definition of zealotry?

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

It's like talking to a flat-earther, exploring their flawed logic to see at what point they go off the rails.

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Phrazz wrote:

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

It's like talking to a flat-earther, exploring their flawed logic to see at what point they go off the rails.

Somehow, I expected more from you... It wont happen again.