Is it just me or is Evasion complete garbage?

Evasion is absolutely godly. You can afk for more than a minute without doing anything and still won't get hit. Also even if you got hit, you only lose half the HP and wont get instant kill. Combined with high regen, you can evade infinitely.

Suggest everyone to switch to evasion builds.

if you spec into acrobatics it gives you 1.5" more on your ween

phase acro gives another 1"

you do the math

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Setasuna wrote:

Evasion is absolutely godly. You can afk for more than a minute without doing anything and still won't get hit. Also even if you got hit, you only lose half the HP and wont get instant kill. Combined with high regen, you can evade infinitely.

Suggest everyone to switch to evasion builds.

All things considered, I'd give this troll a solid 8 out of 10. Well done.

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Trespeon wrote:

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KidKryptonite wrote:

Energy + Evasion
Heads you die, tails you live, you have a half or a fraction of what Pure Energy would have and none of the protection Energy + Armor has.

Trickster would like a word with you.

its not even just trickster, anything that builds in the top right of the tree can go evasion + es and you dont have half the es of an es build, you probably got about 85%.


you wear a vertex that has maybe 50 less flat es than a really great rare hubris and you drop about 100 es off ur shield for a hybrid. all the rest of your gear is the same pure es gear you use for a pure es build, run grace and you now have very effective evasion levels as a hybrid.

i think evasion works better with es than armour does for general mapping.



the only reason i would ever make an es build that wasnt also evasion is because im not in the right part of the tree to get the hybrid es+ev nodes and wicked ward. something else has taken me away like i want to have huge amounts of regen so im forced to hug the left or im building around some kind of offence option whos nodes hold me over there.

personally i think occultist is still the better pick most of the time. cannot be stunned + extra curse + give no fucks about hexproof. i see people talk about ed trickster etc... i dunno why u would go with trick over occultist on the chaos spells especially.





i think generally where people go wrong with evasion is they try and pair it with other mechanics that also revolve around avoiding damage rather than pairing it with mechanics that reduce or absorb damage. it takes so little investment to get decent functioning evasion but people dont just get there and say ok i got avoiding shit covered, now lets do something else.

oh I got 15-20k evasion for next to nothing! ok cool, so what did u do next? 7k life + 60% phys taken as ele? 11k energy shield? no I then got another 20k evasion, acrobatics and then i still got 1 shot, evasion sucks man!!!

ok ya sure, it sucks, fine. conversation over at that point tbh just do ur thing man. same story for 7 years, if the game lasts another 7 itll be exactly the same posts then too.




its dps meta, looking at what defenses people use right now is basically meaningless. even the top hc players, just go watch those poe streamer highlight vids. they put them up almost daily and its just endless clips of high level hardcore characters running into rooms all guns blazing, instantly losing 75% of their life pool and then logging out.

people talk about evasion coin flip, that whole playstyle has become a coin flip. you stack 3 million dps, you have lacklustre defence, you just kill everything before it kills you and when you fuck up and things go wrong you immediately hit the log out and thats where you give yourself over to the coin flip. skill and defence arnt a factor, its just hold down the trigger dps and when dps fails hit the panic button and take a coinflip rng roll on if your character was left in the instance long enough to die. if you died then you talk about how you should have logged sooner, thats the takeaway, thats where your plan to survive as a hardcore poe player fell short. you dont need evasion, your logout macro comes with its own % chance to avoid death.

Rng defenses with no guard skill associated and USELESS against spells.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka2XBt_3488

short demonstration of how strong evasion + dodge is

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MasterTBC wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka2XBt_3488

short demonstration of how strong evasion + dodge is

Its so incredible strong - wow i didnt know. Especially against those spell attack bosses how could i be so blind? Evasion is THA shit.

post videos of one shots means its bad? interesting, cause i can do that all day with some super hardcore VMS+insane mitigation and defenses builds as well.

so i guess nothing is good. lets all just stack damage. accept the one shots cause they happen no matter what

That video doesn't count. 98.7830013% of the time, he would've dodged that.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

oh I got 15-20k evasion for next to nothing! ok cool, so what did u do next? 7k life + 60% phys taken as ele? 11k energy shield? no I then got another 20k evasion, acrobatics and then i still got 1 shot, evasion sucks man!!!

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MasterTBC wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka2XBt_3488

short demonstration of how strong evasion + dodge is

perhaps you should try stacking another 10k evasion on your 4k life build and see if that helps?