Is it just me or is Evasion complete garbage?
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Evasion is not complete garbage. It is okay for some kind of builds but should be supplemented with other defenses. It is true though that in general it's a bit squishy.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Player: I have multiple layers of defences to evade an attack.
System: Evasion (can't dodge spells) Dodge Spell Hit (Capped at 75%), can't dodge aoe, explosion, revenge attacks, reflect attacks, corrupted blood System Cheat: Oh yes, this player has been dodging right? Now it is time for the system to trigger the entropy system so that the dodge will be unlucky. And boom, bye player. No matter how high your evasion and dodge is, the system will still hit you. Plus high level mobs usually have average of 500-600 accuracy. You need 100k evasion to have an evasion chance of 83%. Average players only got 30k to 50k evasion. Against unique bosses...u can imagine why they are not missing. Last edited by Setasuna#6680 on Mar 1, 2020, 3:02:55 AM
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" same with armour tho right? armour is complete garbage. and then you add endurance charges and molten shell and block with spell block and now you actually survive in maps as a build who has armour. " those would be the same spells that are 99% elemental that the alternative of armour does nothing against and also just hit you full force into your resist every time? unless of course you invest in some other form of defence in top of armour... dodge has no entropy btw, its pure rng. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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I think armour and evasion are both pretty bad. Its very inconvenient to get more than 30k of either, but even at 50k they don’t help much against legitimately tough enemies.
Mechanics like flat phys damage reduction, +max res, and physical damage taken as elemental are far superior (but difficult to stack). If you can afford them - or just get a high life pool - you’re better off. It makes sense that better forms of damage mitigation exist either for specialized builds or as expensive chase affixes. But it doesn’t make sense that the defenses the game presents as major centerpieces (even called “defenses” in-game along with ES), that exist as a base stat on all worn gear, and that have huge amounts of dedicated nodes on the passive tree are simply lackluster even when invested in. Like so much of PoE these defenses feel like wasted relics of a bygone era. We're all in this leaky boat together, people. Last edited by demon9675#2961 on Mar 4, 2020, 1:56:14 AM
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When people say armor is good, what they really mean is armor is valuable.
Armor by itself is worse than evasion. But vms scales directly from armor, so armor is very valuable. Example is a beserker I'm playing in hc, it even has 10% damage taken increase from aspect of carnage. He's facetanking every metamorph boss so far and he's nowhere near the vms shield cap. |
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" That is so true. All the meta evasion builds are telling players to choose the damage reduction pantheon so that they can tank and survive better. This has nothing to do with how good evasion really is but how good phy reduction is. |
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" Well they did nerf Immortal Call and not only buffed enemy health but their damage too and quite a number of builds don't have anything but a basalt flask (if that) for physical mitigation. Yep, totally over league play.
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It is complete garbage. Switched from evasion to 7k hp + armor left side tree character and it feels like cheating. I don't know who handles the balance between left side and right side survivability but that person should be fired.
Last edited by demonstorm#4423 on Mar 4, 2020, 5:47:40 PM
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Bumping this thread 1 last time to reiterate that evasion is garbage.
I was playing a trickster that was actually doing fine in deliriums. Then it gets 1 shot by drox's banner. Not even his fist slam. His banner. Gotta love evasion baby. |
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" I - Dont - Ever - Die Evasion Trickster. 70% chance to evade, 55% dodge, 75% spell dodge (without Vaal Grace). Kintsugi to prevent some damage. I don't even die when my screen freezes due to insane monster density thanks to foggers. You can iterate the point however often you wanna, but not being hit sometimes is just the best cure.. The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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